re: Seriously, this "the Alabama refs hate LSU" schtick is getting OLD

After the blown call and replay blowing the call as well with PP's INT you can't blame people for not trusting the officiating...there has been way too many blown calls in the state of Alabama...

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there has been way too many blown calls in the state of Alabama...

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Help me get to the root of your bama/au complex here... do the refs only cheat for Bama and AU in our home games? Or do they do it on the road also? These wild theories are hard to follow sometimes.

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What are these "many sports" that referees have gone to jail for "being on the take"?

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They haven't actually gone to jail, but suspended or otherwise dealt with. Here are a couple of stories talking about it.

Donaghy mentions other fixes, bookies discover another one, NBA fires ref (unnamed)

Evidence of NFL games being fixed, IRS investigation concluded they actually were fixed

And, of course, Donaghy himself and the soccer refs overseas, etc.

You'd have to be pretty naive to think it doesn't happen. Knowing that it happens, it's insane to think that a largely unregulated group of low-paid part-time officials (which the SEC uses) in a sport where rich boosters of various schools routinely violate rules and even laws to give their teams an advantage, would somehow be immune.

And that's just the extreme case of an official actually being bribed. It doesn't even take into account the widespread bias inherently shared by fans of any team. Refs are fans of a given team, too, and a disproportionate share of SEC refs are Alabama fans. The head of SEC officials is an Alabama alumnus.

Alabama has consistently been among the least penalized teams in the SEC over a period of 10-20 years, spanning the tenures of several different coaches, both good and bad, and spanning a ton of seaons, both good and bad. Nick Saban teams at various other places never fared spectacularly well at avoiding penalties. Essentially, his teams were penalized at a normal rate and frequency for the leagues they were in. It wasn't until he got to Alabama that his teams suddenly stopped committing penalties.

This isn't coincidence, nor is it a coach with 30-40 years of coaching experience suddenly having an epiphany about penalties exactly four years and ten months ago.

There's clear, consistent bias in favor of Alabama in SEC officiating. If you choose to ignore it, that's your right, but that doesn't make it go away.

Different crews in each. Wagers for Auburn and Ritter for Bama.

Don't fret people, this year we have the Auburn's home field refs.for this game.

Lets not forget the 6 yard mark off for the 5 yard penality.

Lets not forget watching our starting QB speared by Dedrick knocking him out the game.

Lets not forget Jefferson passing the first down marker by 1 1/2 yards in the 1st quarter only to have it spotted 2 yards in the other direction.

That was in 2009 alone.

2007 LSU had to have 6 calls reversed by the replay offical in that one. And yes, LSU was the team with the best shot to play for the title.

2000 in Tiger Stadium: we had to force the refs to look at the stadium replay for several minutes in order to award LSU the ball on an uncontested fumble recovery.

2004 and 2006 Auburn speaks for itself. 2006 Auburn was the second biggest cheatathon I have ever seen.

And to those of you who think everything in CFB is on the up and up, I beg you to google the 2007 West Virginia V Pitt game. Pitt survived that cheatathon and sent LSU to the title game.

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You'd have to be pretty naive to think it doesn't happen. Knowing that it happens, it's insane to think that a largely unregulated group of low-paid part-time officials (which the SEC uses) in a sport where rich boosters of various schools routinely violate rules and even laws to give their teams an advantage, would somehow be immune.

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Damn Nuts. You are one of the few who doesn't live in fantasy land.

The SEC, for many years, has been one of the lowest paying conferences when it comes to officiating. They've lost several "good" refs to other conferences over the years because of this. At one point in time, the Big 12 paid 2-3 times as much per game, travel, etc...

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It doesn't even take into account the widespread bias inherently shared by fans of any team. Refs are fans of a given team, too, and a disproportionate share of SEC refs are Alabama fans. The head of SEC officials is an Alabama alumnus.

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I know a neat story about one ref, (removed)

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LSU fans need to remember, there is a catch 22 from this: Despite the fact that LSU has been on the shite end of the stick for this (except once in 2004....this was to please the Gumps who had ONE bad call go against them), the fact that SEC is now THE premier conference due to Bama and Florida's popularity, $$$$ and draw, did benefit LSU in 2007. Think about it, learn to live with it, and deal with it.

Seriously, whining about what other people post is getting old.

I'm really getting tired of hearing about the PP interception. It was a bad call, but we still lose. We were dominated that game. Punted 8 times, failed to score on 11 out of 12 drives, and the one drive we scored the entire game essentially equaled the length of the field we needed to go to come back. That one drive lasted longer than the time left on the clock at the time of the Peterson play. Further, Alabama was marching down the field on us in the second half, they would have scored again anyway.

The worst example was the 2007 game in Bama. We got out to a quick lead, only to have penalty after penalty called until Bama got back in the game. In the end we had 14-130, Bama had 2-15.

I went back and checked. The last time Bama had more penalties than LSU in a game was 2005 and we still had more yards in penalties. In '04 we had less yards and penalties. Since 04-05 its been pretty one sided.