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re: SEC-Only Hitting stats since April 25th (Beginning of Tennessee series)

Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
6409 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:21 pm to
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And also, this narrative that he can’t hit lefties is really skewed bc the at bats are so low, it would only take a few hits for that average to jump and people be like “Rake Brown crushes lefties”

I’m not saying I disagree with this completely, but that’s why it’s important to not just look at the end results but also how comfortable they look during the at bat and their quality of swing. Brown does not look comfortable at all during the at bat against lefties. If Brown was as good of a short stop as Milam or third baseman as Braswell no one would be saying to not be in there everyday. But he’s at a position where many people can play and rotate. So with that being the case you need to give the people with the greatest chance of success at bats. Just my opinion of course and I could be dead wrong.
Posted by lsufan0582
337 born
Member since Jan 2022
2299 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:22 pm to
I'm not cherrypicking, I think this offense *Can* be good

I just posted the stats from the last four SEC series to try and pinpoint what's going wrong
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15351 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:23 pm to
Sir, what are you talking about? We have an elite hitting lineup?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40279 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:26 pm to
One thing we are missing is another good RHed bat in the OF.

When a lefties starts we could use another fight handed bat.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
15351 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:28 pm to
aka BABIP? So what. What about the rest of the season to boost their averages? They most definitely got away with a lot during the season and this is it evening out. Anyone who watches has seen the writing on the wall

For being so smart about baseball, you don’t get averages

How about you go through BABIP through entire SEC play and come back to us
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
8817 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 3:28 pm to
Can’t be true. Yesterday Rickdaddy4188 repeatedly told me LSU was a really good hitting team.
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30984 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:09 pm to
I would venture to guess we're about average or slightly below when it comes to our performance against the pitchers weve faced recently compared to the rest of the conference. vandy didn't exactly light up whatever ole miss had left today. the pitching is pretty damn good in the sec this year.

im curious to see how we look at hone against out of conference teams. its been pretty good at home against our best out of conference opponents, although there hasn't been many games to base that on.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10532 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:12 pm to
Swap stanfield and curiel
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10532 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:17 pm to
Or just bench curiel. Why is he getting special treatment?
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
28556 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:20 pm to
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For a point of reference, SEC batting average for all players on all teams is .266.


Another point- Vandy finished top 4 in the regular season and just won the SEC and they have 1 guy batting over .300 in their typical starting lineup.

If you have elite pitching and can get hits and walks when they matter and get runs when the opportunities are there, you can win with a pedestrian or inconsistent offense. We’ve been able to do this at home with very few exceptions. I think we all know the road is a bigger problem.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
28556 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Or just bench curiel. Why is he getting special treatment?


Because he was clearly the best non-pitcher on the roster for 2/3 of the season. If there’s one guy who could make a huge impact this offseason if he can get it going again, it’s Curiel. His performance in Game 3 vs UT should be enough to tell you how he can dominate a game offensively when he’s right.
Posted by FredbullTN
Houston
Member since Sep 2023
4236 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:30 pm to
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but also how comfortable they look during the at bat and their quality of swing. Brown does not look comfortable at all during the at bat against lefties.


That’s fair and I’m not disagreeing with you. And I know there is a time and a place to learn to hit lefties. But he barreled the ball in his second at bat against the A&M lefty and no one was talking about “Brown can’t hit lefties” when he went 410 ft to right center in Hoover last year against a lefty from USCe.

As a matter of fact, “Brown can’t hit lefties” wasn’t even a thing last year.

He doesn’t have to go 10 for 10 to get his average against lefties to a respectable level.

At this point in the season last year he was an everyday starter and we had a really good run. Let him cook.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10532 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:32 pm to
Person isn't a downgrade in the field to curiel. If so, minimally.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2953 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:34 pm to
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If you have elite pitching and can get hits and walks when they matter and get runs when the opportunities are there, you can win with a pedestrian or inconsistent offense. We’ve been able to do this at home with very few exceptions


You are absolutely correct, BUT…those wins were us squeaking by, and not because THAT is our offense plan.
There are teams that play strictly small ball, steals, errors on other team, rely on walks, etc…that are successful. We are not that team. If we were, we would be really good at one basic premise of that kind of offense- the bunt. And we are not really good at it.
Right now we have no plan at the plate. You have Milam swinging at the first pitch he sees, typically at his eyeballs, and you have guys working the count and taking two strikes down the middle.
Jones is still swinging at the low and away curve, and then they get him out on high fast ball.
My biggest hope for post season is other teams don’t know they will be playing us or not, and will not have as much of a book to read on how to beat us.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
28556 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:40 pm to
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Person isn't a downgrade in the field to curiel. If so, minimally.


Pearson isn’t as good as Curiel paying well on the best day of his fricking life. And I like Pearson and think he should be getting some more ABs. Just not for Curiel.

It may be a good idea to move him down in the lineup from leadoff right now, but anyone who wants to take the guy with the highest offensive potential in the lineup off the field to start the tournament is an idiot. Playing a regional at home is the time to get him back on track.
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 4:40 pm
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6251 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:40 pm to
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This is what happens when people cherry pick stats to include games against the best pitching staffs we've faced all year (and will face all year until Omaha).



So what the frick you think will happen from here on?

We face bad pitching?
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
1484 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:13 pm to
Stanford needs to be benched. Have to find a way to get Frey, Pearson and Brown all in the lineup.
Posted by Hiphopanonymous
Baton rouge
Member since Jul 2014
2695 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:17 pm to
What’s LSU’s BABIP compared to the rest of the SEC? Where can I find that on the interwebs?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285114 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:18 pm to
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So what. What about the rest of the season to boost their averages?



LSU was 8th in the SEC in Runs, in a league that is about to put 13 teams into the NCAA tournament.

They played 5 of the 7 teams ahead of them in runs, and won series against all of them except Auburn. (ARK, Miss St, Okla, Tenn).



wHaT aBoUt tHe rEsT oF tHe sEaSon?1/1?!?!?


Well, they certainly were never this bad, and certainly have a winning formula to winning a mess of baseball games, against some great teams and pitching, including multiple pitchers that will be highly drafted in June.


LSU still putting the ball in play at a high clip, and hard, does not suggest it is "evening out". lmao. You do not know the first thing about BABIP or how to understand sample sizes.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59626 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:19 pm to
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