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SEC is in a very uncomfortable legal position and might not have any power over players

Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:13 pm
This stopped being about two players the second the SEC went into federal court claiming it was a private association with First Amendment rights. Fifteen of the 16 SEC schools are public universities. So now the obvious question is how 15 public institutions, represented by their presidents and chancellors, can get together, make decisions that could crush another public university financially, and then turn around and say those decisions are private.

That’s why the Brentwood case matters. The Supreme Court has already ruled that a supposedly private athletic association can be treated as a state actor when public schools and public officials are heavily involved in running it. In that case, 84% of the members were public schools. The SEC is 15 out of 16.

And that is really what people were getting at when they kept asking how 15 people could sit in a room and decide LSU’s future. Those presidents and chancellors are not there as private citizens. They are there representing state universities. If the conference is being controlled by those public institutions, then the SEC may not be able to hide behind being a “private association” when it suits them.

That also changes the Wright and Harris situation. If the SEC’s actions are eventually treated as state action, their claims could potentially move beyond eligibility and lost money into civil-rights territory, especially if there is evidence they were punished for going to court and winning relief. At that point, the emails, texts and meeting notes between Sankey, Plowman and the other presidents become a lot more important.

That’s the real danger for the SEC. They went to court trying to protect their authority over LSU and may have accidentally put the entire legal structure of the conference on trial. And if a court ever says SEC enforcement is state action, this does not stop with the SEC. The Big Ten, Big 12 and other conferences built around public universities could have the exact same problem.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14916 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:17 pm to
The leadership at the SEC just isn’t very good and they seem incapable of navigating this legal minefield. And based on the recent litigation it is clear that they lack competent legal counsel. Their safest course at this point: Forget the whole thing, say nothing more about it and pretend it never happened.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
90556 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:20 pm to
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The leadership at the SEC just isn’t very good and they seem incapable of navigating this legal minefield.


Seems like more competent leadership would have better attorneys.

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Their safest course at this point: Forget the whole thing, say nothing more about it and pretend it never happened.


Agreed. It’s the best way for them to save face.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
3523 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Agreed. It’s the best way for them to save face.


Then the amount that Harris and Wright will get from this settlement, will be astronomical.

8 digits minimum.

If they push this as a civil rights issue, they could being a 10 digit industry to its knees.
Posted by Superfluous Tiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
1177 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:25 pm to
And to think people wanted the SEC to break away from the NCAA. SEC Leadership is no better than NCAA leadership.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19766 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:25 pm to
Unfortunately for Stanky thats not possible. They could just settle with the players they fuq’d but IDK how many that may be. They are getting sued and will lose BIG. Those kids will get paid
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10861 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:26 pm to
Will those two football players allow that to happen?
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
5056 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:28 pm to
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If they push this as a civil rights issue


Worth a look for sure
Posted by AkronTiger
2025 NFL Survivor Champion
Member since May 2021
3706 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:29 pm to
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SEC Leadership is no better than NCAA leadership.


It’s worse
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
7136 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:29 pm to
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The leadership at the SEC just isn’t very good

That’s an understatement. Look at Sankey’s career. Guy went to fricking community college and has had like 3 roles in his life after graduation. He has no experience in anything other than being a corporate arse sucker that got promoted into a position he doesn’t deserve
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
16509 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:31 pm to
Can anyone say spoliation? I agree with your analysis. Excellent
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
16509 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:32 pm to
Well, LSU should not pretend nothing happened.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
2277 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:40 pm to
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If they push this as a civil rights issue,

I mentioned this in a prior post right after the SEC changed its rules to prohibit Wright and Harris from being "eligible' to play in the SEC AFTER they had filed suit against the NCAA. The rule specifically affected these two. I am not a lawyer and don't understand if there is any illegal discrimination that occurred. I would appreciate anyone with legal expertise addressing this. Thanks.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
4117 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 2:57 pm to
the SEC was warned before it "amended" eligibility
Posted by DeathByTossDive226
Member since Sep 2026
1315 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 3:01 pm to
They’re also doing this in coordination with the NCAA while the NCAA is asking the federal government to exempt them from capitalism.

Football is a lucrative business.

It would be the funniest fricking thing of all time if this is what torpedos the protect college sports act.

Would serve those mobsters right and has been a long time coming.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
3523 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 3:03 pm to
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the SEC was warned before it "amended" eligibility


And that’s where I think the problem really changed. Before that filing, the state-action issue was something the players could potentially raise defensively.

Once the SEC itself went into federal court claiming private constitutional rights, it basically invited the other side to say: “Fine. Before you get the rights of a private association, let’s determine whether you’re actually private.”

That is why this could be much more consequential than the original warning about the player rules. The original fight was essentially, “these rules may violate the athletes’ rights.” The new fight can become, “the entity making these rules may itself be governmental for constitutional purposes.”

If that argument gets traction, it reaches far beyond Wright and Harris and into how the SEC actually governs itself.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26766 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 3:11 pm to
The conferences pretty obviously act as monopsonies for the vast majority of the football labor pool, meaning they are the only real "buyers" of the workforce.

You know what that sounds like to me? A cartel

That is allowed if you have anti-trust protection, which of course the conferences do not.

The other thing that cracks me up is the "country club membership" argument, where members sign up and agree to the bylaws, or they can be kicked out on a 2/3rds whim. How many country club memberships pay their members $70 million a year? Point being, if the conferences are allowed to keep existing in the medium term, which I kind of doubt, then there have to be crystal clear eligibility and behavioral rules, with escalatory punishment guidelines, not just "they don't have institutional control!" It is kind of amazing how that is lacking to be honest.
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 3:13 pm
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18514 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 3:14 pm to
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arse sucker


I read this in my Dad's voice. Thanks.
Posted by FistFest
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2019
381 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 3:21 pm to
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The leadership at the SEC just isn’t very good and they seem incapable of navigating this legal minefield.


This, and the fact that they are messing around with a state that has more attorneys than nutria rats sets them up for a massive FAFO moment.
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2023
2380 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 3:22 pm to
All they had to do was grant anyone in the 2022 class a waiver to play, even if they signed temporary pro contracts but were ultimately cut. Now they created this big shite show for themselves just because of their disdain for one person, Lane Kiffin.
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