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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady

Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:37 pm to
Have you crawled across broken glass yet?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:16 pm to
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It that due to their experience or something else? Because apparently a glorified GA who was coaching linebackers at an FCS school five years ago knows more about modernizing an offense than our current OC who has been coach offenses since the 80's.




When you type it out.... woof...
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:16 pm to
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Hires a young guy with barely any experience to train the OC who’s so passed up by the game that he needs a tutor just to semi-modernize the offense.


That's a dumb take. Then again, I consider the source.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32711 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 3:54 pm to
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That's a dumb take.

Cool. Care to explain why?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:13 pm to
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Then again, I consider the source.



Yep. Derangement is an apt word here
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66467 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:18 pm to
It’s a shitty take

I feel Like O really got ahead of the curve here and hired an really exciting young offensive mind.

This whole thread is BS and doesn’t even reflect what SP said in the video.
Posted by BengalD
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
134 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:23 pm to
Was at the closed scrimmage. The offense looked better than any offense I have seen since watching LSU for 35 years.
The Mack Brown offense in Stovall’s second year(interestingly enough Brown was “only” the QB coach his only year, not the OC even though he changed the offense and was calling the plays) was my favorite all time.
The spring game a week later was way tamped down. Insiders on all boards all spring have been describing what I saw. The players and recruits all seem to think that what I saw is real.
Doubting Brady, and Ensminger’s play calling since he is still OC, is a reasonable posture. I think you are in for a big surprise. Sometimes great young coaches(like Aranda, etc) break out and become national names. I believe you are a few months away from seeing this here.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:27 pm to
Alrightly then.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:44 pm to
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It’s a shitty take

I feel Like O really got ahead of the curve here and hired an really exciting young offensive mind.

This whole thread is BS and doesn’t even reflect what SP said in the video.


Im optimistic. Can't know for sure until a couple months but I definitely feel we will be swinging for the fences this year. I think Brady will be a good one
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 4:45 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66467 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:45 pm to
I mean I don't Have to tell you how fricking pessimistic I was before the hire.

But he is the exact opposite of what I thought.

I was Fully expecting another prostyle/NFL/Old USC/ Former O coworker

And that’s not what we got.

Honestly I liked what we saw on the Spring Game.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:09 pm to
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Was at the closed scrimmage. The offense looked better than any offense I have seen since watching LSU for 35 years



Damn. Trying not to get too excited. I want to see this season so bad.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:26 pm to
Went back and read the "3-Day Wonder" offense. It says "install" it in 3 days. Then repeat the 3-day install 3 or 4 more times in Spring ball. So, you're now up to 12 to 15 days.

Rinse and repeat the "3-day" process 10 times in Fall camp, and you're now up to around 42 to 45 days for the "Miracle Install". Sounds about right.

I do like the repeated 3-day cycles though. That seems smart.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:52 pm to
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Perhaps if you had something relevant concerning the topic of the thread to bring to the table you could make a judgment on what's useful here or not.




I've already done that multiple times. You took one aspect of my comments and made a stand alone narrative out of it. You then proceeded to ask a pointless question, which completely ignores the facts of why Canada is out of a job, and what kind of success he had in running his offense at Maryland.

But, again, I only mentioned him as a reminder of what happened the last time Orgeron promised to stay out of the way and allow someone to actually install a new offense.

That is 100% relevant to this topic. You are an intellectually dishonest excuse of a poster. Your petulance grew old a long time ago.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:29 am to
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Your petulance grew old a long time ago



As did your coach bashing did as well. You're welcome to do something about my "petulance" at any time.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 1:57 am to
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As did your coach bashing did as well. You're welcome to do something about my "petulance" at any time.


My coach bashing? I told the truth. Now, it might be an inconvenient truth to someone like yourself, who has a weird allegiance to a man who has done nothing for you, but it's the truth, nevertheless.

Orgeron promised to let his staff do their individual jobs, and that he wouldn't meddle. But that has not been the case. This is what coach bashing looks like: "This guy sucks, I hope he drives off a bridge, and is never found. A monkey could coach a frog better than this guy coaches elite athletes".

Do you ever see me fly off the handle like that? No, you don't. That's because I have nothing personal against Orgeron. I'm just telling it like it is.

As for me being "welcome" to do something about your petulance, I'm not sure what that means. Do you WANT me to threaten you? Do you want me to stoop to that level so that you can feel better about yourself? That ain't happening, friend. Your petulance is on you to deal with.
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 1:58 am
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 2:53 am to
Well he is bringing some saints offense. It was evident n spring game with the designed throws to the backs. The saints have led the nfl utilizing the RBs n passing game. We have the talent at RB to cause problems. Plus when Lber & S’s have To cover the flats more often it creates better looks over the middle to Wr’s. Joe Burrow is perfect for these new concepts. Won’t be much different from E’s system. Just more 10-11 personnel, shotgun w:3-4-5 wise instead of 21-22 sets ya relying on PA and 5 step drops and getting vertical. I am sure we see a lot of both. Too much RB talent not to go big with 22 sets and run downhill w the big physical backs like Curry and TDP. Multiple like the saints is awesome sounding.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:33 am to
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r me being "welcome" to do something about your petulance, I'm not sure what that means. Do you WANT me to threaten you? Do you want me to stoop to that level so that you can feel better about yourself? That ain't happening, friend. Your petulance is on you to deal with



You're the one complaining about it. You don't sound like you know what petulance is. I don't have any allegiance to Ed beyond him being the coach of the LSU football team. His "interference" with Canada was justified. He's the head coach and as such it's his responsibility to step in when he feels that it's necessary. All of that is history and everyone has moved on except for people like you that are looking to bitch about something.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:35 am to
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You're the one complaining about it.


And so you want me to fix you?

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You don't sound like you know what petulance is


It's another way of saying you're childish. I know exactly what it means. Do you?

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I don't have any allegiance to Ed beyond him being the coach of the LSU football team.


Then stop defending what is indefensible. He's not your husband.

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His "interference" with Canada was justified. He's the head coach and as such it's his responsibility to step in when he feels that it's necessary


It was justified how? It was only a couple of games into the season, and guys were still learning the offense. The exact point when Orgeron decided HE knew better, and changed things up, was the game against Troy. What a genius game plan that was, right? The only change that was necessary was for Orgeron and his staff to recruit better offensive linemen and quarterbacks, because those were major weaknesses that year.

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All of that is history and everyone has moved on except for people like you that are looking to bitch about something.


"Moving on", is not an issue when bringing up a subject to make a valid point concerning the history of behavior by our head coach. I came in here with a very even keeled attitude about the topic of Joe Brady, in that I am not saying he won't do anything, but there is no real reason to expect anything. He has no history to back up the hype, and Orgeron has no history of getting out of his assistants way. He even admitted this cost him at Ole Miss. Now you want to start a fight because you don't agree with me.

Tell me how that makes me the one ***ching about something?
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 6:38 am
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:16 am to
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It was justified how



Apparently you don't understand the boss/employee dynamic yet I'm somehow petulant.


Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year old granddaughter. have a great day.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:26 am to
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Apparently you don't understand the boss/employee dynamic yet I'm somehow petulant.




No, I know all about that dynamic. Being "justified" to do something is not so because you are someone's boss. An employer has the RIGHT to fire anyone, at any time, for pretty much any reason, and in some cases, no reason at all.

There is a difference between having the right to do something, and being justified in doing so. I asked you how it was justified, and your response just kicked the can down the road. Your insistence in insulting my intelligence, while demonstrating your relentless ignorance, is just exactly the sort of "petulance" I'm referring to.

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Talking to you is like talking to my 2 year old granddaughter. have a great day.


And here I figured you were probably someone between 18 and 25, with an attitude of an even younger person. To find out that you are a grandparent, and this is how you act? Unbelievable.
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 8:29 am
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