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re: Savion smith has announced he's transferring
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:43 am to MOT
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:43 am to MOT
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Just a warning, you should be prepared for an explanation that involves Thomas leaving USC to come to LSU in April 2013 because he knew Kiffin would be fired later that season, Orgeron would be hired as interim, Orgeron would not be retained as interim, Orgeron would be upset that he wasn't retained as interim, and Orgeron would end up at LSU in January 2015 after leaving USC and taking a year off.
It's completely reasonable.
Now that you mention it, the plan makes total sense if you don't think about it.
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:45 am to Boudreaux in SF
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has any body pointed out the fact that with the three incoming transfers we are over the 85 limit by 3; therefore attrition is necessary. One down, at least 2 more to go.
Sure, I think most would rather attrition to come from non-contributors though.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:48 am to Minden tiger
Saivion posted a pic with the heartbroke emolji like it wasn't his decision to leave
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:51 am to Iam_PrinceAkeem
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Saivion posted a pic with the heartbroke emolji like it wasn't his decision to leave
It was pretty odd how he worded it as his "parents decision."
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:54 am to UpToPar
Perhaps his next pic he'll be sporting his new BBB shoes.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 9:57 am to Boudreaux in SF
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has any body pointed out the fact that with the three incoming transfers we are over the 85 limit by 3; therefore attrition is necessary. One down, at least 2 more to go.
You and your facts.
The milesenistas are going to WAR!
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:02 am to CptBengal
New regime, super deep position, highly rated high school player not exactly panning out, why does it have to be a big mystery? Or controversy for that matter?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:03 am to UpToPar
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Sure, I think most would rather attrition to come from non-contributors though.
Do you know if he going to be a contributor?
Or are you making an assumption based off of journalists' recruiting rankings?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:08 am to Boudreaux in SF
Well he contributed last year, even if only on special teams. He was certainly on the 2 deep depth chart going into this year which means he would have likely seen playing time on defense.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:11 am to Damone
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Now that you mention it, the plan makes total sense if you don't think about it.
It would be an LSU conspiracy theory to end all conspiracy theories.
A better conspiracy than the hidden playbook, Jefferson's dirt on Miles, and the split locker room at the 2011 NC game.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:13 am to Tiger Ree
Yeah, getting drilled at home by SMU woulda scared the shite outta Saban.
Losing to 3 other lightweights is impressive especially when you look at those BIG wins vs Sam Houston, Lamar, Texas State, UCONN, Cincinnati, Tulsa, UCF, Tulane, and that great victory over Louisville.
Who else beat the crap outta Louisville? Oh that's right it was Orgeron and staff who tore the great Bobby Petrino's arse up.
Exactly what is so impressive to you nitwits who have a man-crush on Herman?
Losing to 3 other lightweights is impressive especially when you look at those BIG wins vs Sam Houston, Lamar, Texas State, UCONN, Cincinnati, Tulsa, UCF, Tulane, and that great victory over Louisville.
Who else beat the crap outta Louisville? Oh that's right it was Orgeron and staff who tore the great Bobby Petrino's arse up.
Exactly what is so impressive to you nitwits who have a man-crush on Herman?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:16 am to Elleshoe
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Let me pose this question to the board.. If Ed Orgeron was from Gary, Indiana, would he be the head coach at LSU right now?
Depends, did he take over USC after they had gone 4-7 in their last 11 games? Did he take over the team mid-season with the same coaches, players, staff, admin, etc and go 5-2 including a win over the #4 team in the country? Going from 4-7 to 5-2?
Did he take over a lackluster LSU team and guide them to a 7-2 record breaking three all-time offensive records with a TE's coach leading the offense?
Did he:
Get two national championship rings at Miami under two different coaches?
Get two national championship rings at USC?
Does the guy from Gary have four national championship rings from two different programs?
Was this posted in an article about him "After the Trojans fired Kiffin five games into the season in 2013, Orgeron was elevated to interim head coach for eight games. He led the Trojans to a 6-2 mark over that span and generated a lot of good will.
More than that record, he became known for changing the culture. Have people like Dr. Dre and Ray Lewis talk to the team. Trojans safety Dion Bailey spoke in 2013 about how refreshing Orgeron was"
"He's always looking out for what's better for us, what makes us comfortable, taking care of our bodies. That really made us appreciate him, and from then on, guys have been behind Coach O and would run through a brick wall for him."
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/9/26/13050878/ed-orgeron-lsu-football-interim-head-coach
Was he the defensive coordinator at USC for the 2010 and 2011 seasons? Unlike idiots here that will tell you he has never run either side of the ball, he has.
"He also was the defensive coordinator of USC in 2010 and 2011 and then the assistant head coach starting in 2012. USC in 2011 improved from the previous year in rushing, total and scoring defense, with the rushing defense (111.4) and sack averages ranking in the national Top 20. USC held 8 of its 12 opponents to 17 points or less"
Who typed this bullshite? Only the official USC website. https://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ed_orgeron_567326.html
Is the guy from Gary known as a great recruiter?
"At Miami, he recruited future Pro Football Hall of Famers like Warren Sapp and Cortez Kennedy."
"During Orgeron’s first stint at USC, after being named the recruiting coordinator in 2001, he helped the Trojans to top-five signing classes for three straight years."
"When he returned to USC with Kiffin, the school’s first recruiting class ranked No. 3, per the 247Sports Composite."
"In 2012, Sporting News selected him as the nation's No. 2 recruiter and Rivals.com named him one of the nation's Top 25 recruiters."
"In 2011, he was named the Scout.com/FOXSports.com National Recruiter of the Year, ESPNU/ESPN The Magazine named him the top recruiter in college football (and third best in all of collegiate athletics)"
"Rivals.com ranked him as the second-best recruiter of the previous 10 years (2002-11)."
"He was named the 2004 National Recruiter of the Year by The Sporting News and Rivals.com."
Everything posted between the last link and this one was also from the USC official webpage.
https://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ed_orgeron_567326.html
So to answer your question. If you could answer yes to many or all of the above questions above then without a doubt the guy from Gary, Indiana could be the head coach at LSU right now.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:22 am to UpToPar
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It was pretty odd how he worded it as his "parents decision."
This would imply grades or something else about his decisions at LSU that his parents weren't happy about. Just speculation and it's their business as a family. If he was in a bad spot then props to his parents for helping him make the tough choice.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:25 am to CelticDog
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I hate this. He is 2nd depth chart going into summer.
No, he is not.
From an earlier post:
24/7 depth chart:
Cornerback:
Kevin Tolliver II
Donte Jackson
Greedy Williams
Saivion Smith
Kristian Fulton
Said Smith and Fulton were battling for time. I guess it's evident how that turned out.
https://247sports.com/ContentGallery/Projecting-LSU-Tigers-football-post-spring-depth-chart-52492679/8
Nickelback:
Donte Jackson
Xavier Lewis
Kristian Fulton
Abraham Wallace
https://247sports.com/ContentGallery/Projecting-LSU-Tigers-football-post-spring-depth-chart-52492679/10
Not to mention Kary Vincent, who may be the fastest player on the team.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:25 am to Tiger Ree
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So to answer your question. If you could answer yes to many or all of the above questions above then without a doubt the guy from Gary, Indiana could be the head coach at LSU right now.
I believe the question assumes the exact same resume he has now (including his time as Ole Miss HC), only that he is from Indiana instead of Louisiana.
If his resume was so good, why were no other schools after him?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:41 am to Manswers
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If he is convinced of that, who does he think will start ahead of him?
Maybe Greedy Williams and Kristian Fulton?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:46 am to Elleshoe
frick you.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 10:53 am to Damone
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He won THREE SEC games in three years as a head coach at Ole Miss
So basically the only FACT you have to not support Coach O is based on what happened over a decade ago at Ole Miss? Classic
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he has been nothing but a DL coach and interim coach
Glad you brought this up so I can post this little bit of info again.
From the official USC website
quote:Yeah, sounds like you are WRONG about him only being a good recruiter and D-Line coach. https://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ed_orgeron_567326.html
after returning to the Trojan staff in January of 2010. He also was the defensive coordinator in 2010 and 2011 and then the assistant head coach starting in 2012.
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After he left USC, no one even wanted him until Miles needed a shot of adrenaline to his recruiting staff
He walked away from USC because he knew he was coming to LSU. Why do you think Austin Thomas came to LSU during the spring of the year Kiffin flamed out? Kiffin's end at USC started the prior year. Les Miles reassigned Brick Haley to hire Coach O and had tried to hire O before he went to UT with Kiffin.
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After his interim stint at LSU ended, no other schools were approaching him for a DL spot, much less a head coaching vacancy
You do realize Coach O was hired as permanent head coach on the day after the regular season ended?
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All of these are facts of the man who has been given the keys to the future of the LSU football program.
Ha Ha Ha, "All these facts"? The only thing that resembled a fact was the shite you typed about Ole Miss from last decade that may be a little outdated by now.
Funny, good shite dude !!!
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:08 am to Damone
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All of these are common sense, and any qualified coach would have done the same.
Then why were people on the recruiting board bitching when Craig and Juluke were let go? Why were all four employed by LSU if it was all, as you say, "common sense"?
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And BTW, he didn't even fire Cam Cameron, so how does he get credit for that?
frick dude, you need to stick with following Colorado State because it is obvious you know VERY LITTLE about LSU.
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No, that would be Les, who realized that he couldn't run the program without Thomas.
A simple question that you really don't have to answer because I know you don't know the answer and don't want to read any more stupid shite than I absolutely have to.
Question: How the frick would Les realize that he couldn't run the program without Austin Thomas? How would he know what the frick Austin Thomas even did in his job? How in the frick would he even know Austin Thomas was breathing in oxygen on this beautiful place we call earth? Huh???
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I'd hope so given that he was running the entire recruiting process,
Coach O ran the entire recruiting process for maybe 8 months last year. Frank Wilson the RC left in January 2016 for TX SA. Dameyune Craig was appointed recruiting coordinator at the time Coach O was made interim coach.
Do you follow LSU at all or just come to this board to troll with your lack of knowledge or ignorance?
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And on top of that, he missed out on Marvin Wilson, his personally prized recruit.
Just fricking stop with your idiocy, please.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 11:59 am to Tiger Ree
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frick dude, you need to stick with following Colorado State because it is obvious you know VERY LITTLE about LSU.
LINK
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Alleva, LSU president F. King Alexander and a selected group of LSU Board members made the decision to relieve Miles and Cameron of their duties at about 2 p.m. Sunday.
Was O a member of the LSU board of directors?
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Question: How the frick would Les realize that he couldn't run the program without Austin Thomas? How would he know what the frick Austin Thomas even did in his job? How in the frick would he even know Austin Thomas was breathing in oxygen on this beautiful place we call earth? Huh???
LINK
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Thomas spent nearly three years as LSU’s Director of Player Personnel before departing for a similar role at Southern Cal, where he had previously worked, in February of this year. After three months with the Trojans, Thomas opted to return to the LSU football staff.
“We are excited to have Austin back on the staff,” Miles said. “We hated to see him leave so we were thrilled when we were able to get him back. Austin is extremely talented and detail-oriented and he’s played a big role in our recruiting success over the last three years.”
He left for a lateral move to USC, then LSU threw more money and a new title to him "General Manager" because they knew how integral he was to the entire recruiting process.
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Coach O ran the entire recruiting process for maybe 8 months last year. Frank Wilson the RC left in January 2016 for TX SA. Dameyune Craig was appointed recruiting coordinator at the time Coach O was made interim coach.
So you admit that O was the recruiting coordinator during the most recent signing class, glad that's cleared up. '
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Just fricking stop with your idiocy, please.
So... did he sign Wilson or not?
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