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re: Savion smith has announced he's transferring
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:56 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:56 pm to drizztiger
Give me your choices on who deserved the job and if they did where did they go or did they stay at their current job?
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:58 pm to saint tiger225
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A lot of top high school players transfer to better football schools once they're recognized a bit. It's about development.
Don't be so stupid.
And yet now he's going FBS "development huh?"
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:59 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:An objective opinion would fully recognize that CEO was out of football entirely for a year before Les hired him at LSU. An objective opinion would consider CEO only time running a program at Ole Miss. An objective opinion would consider there were no other suitors for CEO to be HC.
Everyone has an opinion but I wonder just how objective yours is.
Facts are facts and hope is hope.
Objective is no bias. Hope is fully bias.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:02 pm to GeauxLSU4
quote:Yet we have a highly rated guy that projected in the two deep considering transfer.
We're extremely thin at tackle. We need to target some juco guys at tackle.
Y'all say in the case of Smith its bc we're so deep at his position, so I wonder what the deal is with Allen.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:04 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
quote:Why would that matter, I'm not an AD at LSU or other elite football program.
Give me your choices on who deserved the job and if they did where did they go or did they stay at their current job?
That's someone else's job - Alleva. But it's clear as day that LSU was competing for CEO as HC vs. no one. No one else was hiring CEO to be their HC. His resume is spotty as best - and that's being nice.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:11 pm to drizztiger
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That's someone else's job - Alleva. But it's clear as day that LSU was competing for CEO as HC vs. no one. No one else was hiring CEO to be their HC. His resume is spotty as best - and that's being nice.
To be fair... NO ONE is jumping through hoops to hire Miles currently.......NC Winning Coach and can't get a job? What was his specialty? Offense?
O Line? 
Miles was a product of being a great recruiter, period. We just hired one of those with some common sense....
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:11 pm to drizztiger
I believe it became more obvious that Herman was waiting for Texas to fire strong and Jimbo was staying put. Like I said Coach O was not my first choice or second choice but everyone in here saying no one else would have hired him just makes me shake my head. Matter a fact everyone saying that about coach O I guess can say that about our legendary previous coach that no one wants now. Just can't wait to the season starts we win 5 or 6 games to start then we drop 1 and here will come the O haters.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 12:53 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:11 pm to saint tiger225
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What about all the other transfers?
Come on y'all. We had several players transfer under Miles. Pretty sure we lost 3 WRs in the last year of Miles. It happens.
But since we compare everything to what little Nicky does at Alabama, go do some research on all the 4 and 5 star talent that has transferred from Bama and they're doing just fine.
Go checkout the 5star stud QB that transferred to ASU just last year. Doesn't seem to be hurting them...
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:12 pm to drizztiger
Not that I pay it but I don't understand why O's contract is what it is.
Wish Alleva wasn't our AD for a number of reasons, but him letting his feelings get in the way of doing what's best for LSU showed immaturity on his part. He had to expect a guy like Herman was going to be courted and even needed to be bidded for.
Oh well. Geaux Tigers!!
Wish Alleva wasn't our AD for a number of reasons, but him letting his feelings get in the way of doing what's best for LSU showed immaturity on his part. He had to expect a guy like Herman was going to be courted and even needed to be bidded for.
Oh well. Geaux Tigers!!
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:13 pm to drizztiger
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An objective opinion would fully recognize that CEO was out of football entirely for a year before Les hired him
What does this have to do with anything? Coach O was out of coaching for a year because he left USC (his decision) and Les had not reassigned Brick Haley to another position so he could hire Coach O.
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An objective opinion would consider CEO only time running a program at Ole Miss
A person that is really objective would look at his successful stints running major programs at USC and LSU also.
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An objective opinion would consider there were no other suitors for CEO to be HC
An objective opinion would also realize that LSU hired him the day after the regular season ended. After his successful stints at USC and LSU with both teams looking much better under his watch, who knows if he would have been approached by other teams. Hell, Kiffin was sought after and Coach proved that he is a much better coach that LK.
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Facts are facts and hope is hope.
The only fact in your post is that coach O sat out a year befored accepting a position at LSU.
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Objective is no bias. Hope is fully bias
Objective is not foreseeing a decline in 3 or 4 years in the future with no basis to make that determination other than the coach sat out a year.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:13 pm to Elleshoe
Stupid motherfricker. And in so many ways.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:14 pm to LildripDraws
Most guys don't hang around a school for their entire career because that school needs depth.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:14 pm to GeauxJZK
Difference with Bama is they seem to recruit QB'S over the years we seem to always go for the projects or dual threats. Looks like O is doing pretty good right now on trying to change that.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:18 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
Come on man...
quote:Who was hiring CEO to be their HC? Don't be silly here.
everyone in here saying no one else would have hired him just makes me shake my head.
quote:This is somewhat true, but Miles could get a HC job easily if he wanted one. It just wouldn't be LSU level. Miles =/= CEO resume.
Matter a fact everyone saying that about coach O I guess can say that about our legendary previous coach that no one ones now.
quote:Haters is a terrible word. I want CEO to succeed. I want LSU to succeed. But realizing who LSU hired and history and perspective isn't against LSU. It's the opposite.
Just can't wait to the season starts we win 5 or 6 games to start then we drop 1 and here will come the O haters.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:22 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:No, CEO was out of football because he didnt get USC gig.
What does this have to do with anything? Coach O was out of coaching for a year because he left USC (his decision) and Les had not reassigned Brick Haley to another position so he could hire Coach O.
quote:Not one of those is running a program. Games, yes. Program? Silly.
A person that is really objective would look at his successful stints running major programs at USC and LSU also.
quote:Objective it seeing forest through the trees. Your blind hope is okay, I can do that. I hope a lot. But that doesn't mean I believe objectively that there is any evidence justifying that hope.
Objective is not foreseeing a decline in 3 or 4 years in the future with no basis to make that determination other than the coach sat out a year.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:25 pm to drizztiger
I get it but we are not talking about the USA conference here. I mean if Herman came here it would have been he needs time to implement his scheme,etc. Herman has never been a head coach at a Big boy conference either. Sure he beat some teams in a bowl game big flipping whoop. Guarantee Herman would not have gotten slack if he won 8 or 9 games next year. Now look at the Coach O haters he needs to win 10 or 11 games.
They just want to say I told you so bad.
They just want to say I told you so bad.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:28 pm to Dlab2013
quote:I'm not a Les apologist, but he had success running a program prior to LSU - in terms or medium success IMO. The only time CEO had hold of a program, he set low-bar for Ole Miss. Ole Miss is epitome of low bar and he lowered it.
Miles was a product of being a great recruiter, period. We just hired one of those with some common sense....
Being a passionate cajun doesn't mean you're qualified to be LSU football HC.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:32 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
quote:Who you arguing with here?
I mean if Herman came here it would have been he needs time to implement his scheme,etc. Herman has never been a head coach at a Big boy conference either. Sure he beat some teams
Alleva wanted Herman and it was handshake deal until Herman leveraged and UT and Alleva's panties got all tight and such.
quote:Never. Ever. For me. I hope I'm wrong. I'm not that narcissistic that I want LSU to fail so I can be message board blah. I'm telling you my thoughts now on why I believe things are going to happen. And I don't think I'm wrong. But trust me I'll be cheering and sweating for every game.
They just want to say I told you so bad.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:33 pm to drizztiger
6 pages of Smith transferring 10 pages of Coach O as coach debate. Sounds about right
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:38 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
quote:So true.
6 pages of Smith transferring 10 pages of Coach O as coach debate. Sounds about right
Didn't mean to get into this.
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