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re: Saturday Scrimmage Notes
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:29 pm to JJ27
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:29 pm to JJ27
So you think Lee was the better option last season? FWIW, I DID too...and was one of many who wanted Lee to get his shot. He got it, played well in spurts, and terrible in spurts, and I (along with the coaches) decided may as well keep JJ in...since at least he gives the running threat. JJ played better toward the end of the season, and with an actual QB coach, might actually get it. Bottom line, I don't think the coaches want any less than the fans do.
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Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:31 pm to tduecen
quote:Sheeyit!
but as long as LSU is winning and QB play has improved no one will honestly care.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:31 pm to Fishhead
quote:I may be one of few who doesn't really care if my QB can run. I want my QB to be able to complete passes and hit receivers... Unless he is a Charlie Ward, Cam Newton, Tommy Frazier, Tim Tebow type of player (which I do not think Jefferson is)
since at least he gives the running threat.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:32 pm to tduecen
quote:Well that's fine, I have no problem with that. But as of now, that's the offensive package LSU uses...so....
I may be one of few who doesn't really care if my QB can run. I want my QB to be able to complete passes and hit receivers... Unless he is a Charlie Ward, Cam Newton, Tommy Frazier, Tim Tebow type of player (which I do not think Jefferson is)
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:33 pm to Fishhead
There will always be people who criticize, Flynn had it in 07, Mauck even had it in 03... McElroy had it in 08 on Bama boards, Cam had it last year by Barners on SEC Rant.....
However, if LSU is winning and the passing game has improved from last year you will see it less and less and they will be drowned out. If the passing offense looks similar to last year then it will become louder and louder.
However, if LSU is winning and the passing game has improved from last year you will see it less and less and they will be drowned out. If the passing offense looks similar to last year then it will become louder and louder.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:37 pm to tduecen
quote:I agree with that. There will always be a very vocal minority, though.
However, if LSU is winning and the passing game has improved from last year you will see it less and less and they will be drowned out. If the passing offense looks similar to last year then it will become louder and louder.
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Honestly, if JJ plays like he did most of last year, I'll be one of them...although I won't cry and scream like a little biyotch about it. Like I said, I think the coaches want the same thing as the fans...to win. I think the coaches put the players on the field they think will give LSU the best chance to win...and I'm certain they know more about the players, and the game of football, than I do. And yes, I realize there are many on this board that know FAR more than our coaching staff about football...and in fact...about the players on our team.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:37 pm to Fishhead
quote:
So you think Lee was the better option last season? FWIW, I DID too...and was one of many who wanted Lee to get his shot. He got it, played well in spurts, and terrible in spurts, and I (along with the coaches) decided may as well keep JJ in...since at least he gives the running threat. JJ played better toward the end of the season, and with an actual QB coach, might actually get it. Bottom line, I don't think the coaches want any less than the fans do.
I certainly thought he deserved to start following the UF game and never played any worse than Jefferson.
Based on what I saw last year, and the way Miles has talked about JJ, Jefferson will be your starter until things fall apart of he gets injured. Miles is enamored with JJ's legs and experience
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:37 pm to Fishhead
quote:eh in certain situations, Crowton/Miles used a variety of plays last year. Crowton doesn't run 100% spread as Tim Rattay can attest. LSU used the roll out more last year than in 09/08/07 because Crowton tried to dictate more plays that fit Jefferson's mobility but I think Lee would have been just fine and the offense would have been more under center had he been the starter. Last year was 50/50 on Crowton and players in my opinion and we will see this year if it was more on players or more on Crowton.
Well that's fine, I have no problem with that. But as of now, that's the offensive package LSU uses...so....
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:37 pm to Fishhead
quote:
Well that's fine, I have no problem with that. But as of now, that's the offensive package LSU uses...so....
Loyal to a fault...brought in a new OC, but won't let him change the offense. JJ is the starter for 2011, period. It doesn't matter what Mett or anyone else does, it's a done deal.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:38 pm to TheDoc
quote:I think they knew what they were doing with Lee.
remember, lee was playing much better than JJ, and yet JJ still got the majority of the snaps.
He had a couple flashes, but I don't think he was playing well at all. Take the Bama game. The stats look like an average middle-relief outing for Lee. . .but if you watch the game, Lee was absolutely horrid.
I think the coaches knew what they were doing there. Lee had flashes on the field, but the staff knew what they had in both Lee and JJ.
And now that I have said that, I am sure this is going to turn into a JJ/JL thread.
This post was edited on 4/2/11 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:FWIW, I think it's more experience than legs, but that's just my opinion. Without knowing any more than I do about Mett, I feel better about JJ starting the season in a neutral site game against the BCS runners up. And I seriously doubt anyone on this board knows as much about Mett as they imply.
Miles is enamored with JJ's legs and experience
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:40 pm to JJ27
quote:
He didn't last year. I don't think he will in 2011 either.
different situation, Mett =/= Lee (we all hope anyway).
JJ & JL are pretty much the same, slightly better than mediocre.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:40 pm to Roaad
quote:
He had a couple flashes, but I don't think he was playing well at all
He certainly wasn't any worse than JJ. Anyone objectively would agree with that.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:41 pm to JJ27
quote:Curious...what is your connection to the football team? Clearly you're an insider.
Loyal to a fault...brought in a new OC, but won't let him change the offense. JJ is the starter for 2011, period. It doesn't matter what Mett or anyone else does, it's a done deal.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:42 pm to Roaad
quote:
He had a couple flashes, but I don't think he was playing well at all. Take the Bama game. The stats look like an average middle-relief outing for Lee. . .but if you watch the game, Lee was absolutely horrid.
Who threw the 47 yarder to seal the game?
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:43 pm to JJ27
quote:
brought in a new OC, but won't let him change the offense.
how do you know the offense hasn't changed? in addition, why would a team that has had several publications rank them #1 in early polls overhaul the offense.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:But he certainly wasn't better.
He certainly wasn't any worse than JJ. Anyone objectively would agree with that.
I think it came down to JJ having the option to run when a play broke down. It nudged him ahead of Lee.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
He certainly wasn't any worse than JJ. Anyone objectively would agree with that.
But was he consistently better? Lee looked great when he came in early in the season, but looked worse as the season went on.
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I agree with that. But, I do think JJ got BETTER later in the season, while JL got worse. When JL first started getting snaps, he did pretty well...which translated to looking GREAT after JJ's dismal start. But he still had multiple ducks...I mean, worse than ducks...that just happened to fall harmlessly to the ground. And he STILL doesn't know how to set his feet.
He certainly wasn't any worse than JJ. Anyone objectively would agree with that
Posted on 4/2/11 at 11:44 pm to JJ27
quote:Who won the game?
Who threw the 47 yarder to seal the game?
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