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re: Sam Montgomery Passes Drug Test

Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:11 am to
Posted by tbonetiger
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:11 am to
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Drug tests for marijuana have almost zero informational value if they come back negative. The shampoo is too easy to get, piss is easy to get, etc. I neither believe nor disbelieve Sam, but that drug test is meaningless.
So is an ESPN report or Houston justifying releasing a player who has been hurt most of this season.

Questionable Drug Test >>>>> ESPN
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Average cost of house in the neighborhood is maybe $350k.




hmmmmm....that's ballin for a state worker


I honestly don't know why they are so pissed at you.


ETA: its obvious they cut Sam due to poor work ethic/performance. I don't fault them, but a court of law and the NFLPA will torch them due to the manner in which they did it.

Did Sam smoke or not is actually moot at this point because "testing" says no.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 10:13 am
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4629 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:28 am to
I sense that Saul Goodman may have played a part in this.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50342 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:32 am to
Did they test Sam for Ho-Ho's?
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
5148 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:33 am to
Have you seen the type of journalism that ESPN puts out? It's sensationalist to the max. They catch something downwind and run with it.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:34 am to
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Did Sam smoke or not is actually moot at this point because "testing" says no.
Since its an "independent" test and not sactioned by the NFL or NFLPA Im assuming it wont be considered. But admittedly, Im just talking out of my arse.
Posted by Rotiger
Roanoke, Tx
Member since Aug 2006
460 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:44 am to
I assure you if it was an nfl drug test there is no bringing a bottle of piss trickery. They make you drop em to the ankles and watch the stream come out of your penis.
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
513 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:46 am to
Jumpin' in here late. Couple of things about drug tests. The pros are subject to the 360, knees to nipples with a bend. The collector stands no less than 10 feet from the donor. Face to face.

360 = complete turn
Nipples to knees = Naked from your nipples to your knees.

Now how do you beat these tests?

Whoever said tests other than league sanctioned is correct.

Finally, the old adage in drug testing is "Never test someone twice" That means, if you see someone smoking weed, don't bother testing him.

Regards
Posted by SouthlakeTiger
Southlake, Texas
Member since Mar 2005
5989 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 10:54 am to

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Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:09 am to
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Finally, the old adage in drug testing is "Never test someone twice" That means, if you see someone smoking weed, don't bother testing him.
WTF is this supposed to mean?
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
513 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:09 am to
Hair test. Not "folical" is below skin surface. They don't pluck, just snip or shave. BTW, when it comes to THC, hair testing results are suspect.
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
513 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:12 am to
simple, if you see someone smoking dope, why waste money on test. Saw a principal screw up by suggesting mom get kid tested. THC wasn't present in urine. Principal looked stupid. (THC not present in urine for about 6 hours) Principal shouldn't have "tested" the kid twice. Once (with eyes) was enough. Whey test Sam later? What's that gonna prove?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:15 am to
Can you relay this to Sam's case specifically. Im still not following you. (unless you're saying Sam ran to the lab and got tested before the 6-hour timeframe elapsed ??)
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
513 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:22 am to
Yes, When people get in trouble with an employer's substance abuse policy, they often run out and get their own test to show they are not violating the policy. Employers almost always ignore them. The PA and the Owners agree to certain testing procedures. Anything else is only good for publicity. I don't think they wasted the time to test Sam and the others. I'm guessing they weren't smoking Arturo Fuentes. Probably some swisher sweets with the hole. Again, visual was a test. They failed, why complicate matters with a urine test?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:33 am to
If you saw them smoking it is clear that he was using drugs.

Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:34 am to
interesting
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:48 am to
I don't know why he been witch hunt.
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
513 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:48 am to
RE: If you saw them smoking it is clear that he was using drugs.


Yes, of course it was clear. Unless you want me to be naïve.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:52 am to
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Since its an "independent" test and not sactioned by the NFL or NFLPA Im assuming it wont be considered.



...that's the rub.....they'll dismiss it.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:54 am to
Even if he wanted to take an official one, since he wasnt actually caught via the agreed upon testing policy, the NFLPA wouldnt let him take another test (I wouldnt think).
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