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re: Rhymes now batting .503!!!

Posted on 4/27/12 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/27/12 at 10:38 pm to
Guy is just an amazing player. Batting .503! That's insane.


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63299 posts
Posted on 4/27/12 at 10:41 pm to
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I took shite the other night saying he will be a HIGH draft pick. If you hit .500 in any form of baseball, you are a very valued commodity for the next level. They will teach him to field, steal bases, throw, etc. You can't teach getting a successful hit 50 out of 100 times at the plate.



What do you mean by HIGH?
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
38119 posts
Posted on 4/27/12 at 10:45 pm to
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he'll go anywhere from the 4th-8th round IMO.


In baseball, you are a damn fine hitter if you manage to get a hit 300 times out of 1000. This guy is 500/1000 and climbing against the best talent out there. This means he gets a successful hit 200 times more out of 1000 chances than the next guy. He's a higher draft pick than 4th to 8th round.

Put it this way, if he had 44 homeruns with a .215 average as a right fielder this season, he would be a first round pick.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73782 posts
Posted on 4/27/12 at 10:51 pm to
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In baseball, you are a damn fine hitter if you manage to get a hit 300 times out of 1000. This guy is 500/1000 and climbing against the best talent out there. This means he gets a successful hit 200 times more out of 1000 chances than the next guy. He's a higher draft pick than 4th to 8th round.

Put it this way, if he had 44 homeruns with a .215 average as a right fielder this season, he would be a first round pick.

The NCAA record holder for batting average with a .551 average on the season was drafted in the 7th round. Rhymes is a great player but I don't think you understand how the draft works. Him not having a position kills him.
This post was edited on 4/27/12 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Dro
Barrett's Barleycorn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/27/12 at 10:51 pm to
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
38119 posts
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:02 pm to
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I don't think you understand how the draft works.


I played college ball 96 to 99 and was drafted twice from my senior year of HS to my junior year of college. If he can hit, he will be drafted high. He will not return to LSU with no upside after a .500 season. The draft is all about upside.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73782 posts
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:08 pm to
no, he won't be drafted low enough to stay LSU, never said that, but no he will not be drafted in the first 2 round either. he'll be drafted high enough to where he will not return to lsu, but the fact that he has no position and the one he does play he has a very poor fielding percentage is going to have mlb teams shy away from drafting him in the first few rounds. a 4th-8th round pick is still indicative of a very good baseball player and one that will be given plenty of money in his signing bonus. most draft scouts have him in the 6th-7th right now.
This post was edited on 4/27/12 at 11:10 pm
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:57 pm to
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I took shite the other night saying he will be a HIGH draft pick.
And rightfully so. He has no other above average tools besides contact hitting.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9076 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 12:02 am to
To be fair though, that is kinda the main object of the entire game. That's like saying a basketball player has no above average ability except the ability to hit shots
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65527 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 12:23 am to
No, to be fair it's like saying that a guy is a great shooter, but he can't create his own shot, turns the ball over, doesn't rebound, and can't defend.

How high would that guy get drafted, even though the object of the game is to shoot the ball in the basket.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 12:33 am to
What's going to become interesting to watch will be if Rhymes is just a one hit wonder and everything is just going his way for one year? Will he carry this over to pro ball? I look forward to watching his development. It will be fun to see.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7387 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 1:01 am to
I think he will get drafted in 4-8 round and will leave.
Posted by WILDTURKEYisgood
Madisonville
Member since Aug 2010
3320 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 1:47 am to
The guy from moneyball takes him in the first round. Why? because he gets on base
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73782 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 6:03 am to
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The guy from moneyball takes him in the first round.

beane picked the players he did because it was a way of maximizing the product on the field without spending a lot of money. no where in moneyball does he claim guys drafted in the first round shouldn't be drafted in the first round or guys drafted in the later round should be drafted higher solely because of OBP. he basically showed how some people were undervalued and could be gotten much more cheaply than other players of equal value that were more expensive. if you'll look at his "dream team" from players in the 2002 draft, discounting everything but the players value, all but a couple ended up being drafted in the 1st round. Of those 20 players, only 9 of those ever played in the major leagues. so it's not like he saw things in players no other scouts did nor did he have some crystal bal by way of a stat metric for predictive value based on OBP. most the guys he liked were also liked by other teams and subsequently drafted in the 1st round.

Sure he showed how important OBP is, a stat that previously wasn't even looked at. however, talent, upside, and having more than one tool are very important too, and beane would tell you that himself. he didn't go out and just pick the guys wit the best OBP. he picked guys he knew he could afford and guys he could afford to cut and used OBP as one of the factors of who to sign and who to cut.
This post was edited on 4/28/12 at 6:06 am
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 6:54 am to
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What's going to become interesting to watch will be if Rhymes is just a one hit wonder and everything is just going his way for one year?

Did you see the average he posted at LSU last year? Or what he did at LSU-Eunice? He will never have another year like 2012 but he's done enough already to never be classified as a one hit wonder.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 7:07 am to
He needs to go ahead and change his first name to "Rake."

Now batting, Rake Rhymes ...
Posted by WILDTURKEYisgood
Madisonville
Member since Aug 2010
3320 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 7:12 am to
I watched the movie too bro
The purpose of my statement was to say that he does a good job getting on base and someone will see the value in that. Do i think he will be a 1st rounder? Probably not.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97107 posts
Posted on 4/28/12 at 7:16 am to
503. thats a joke right?
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