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Rewatching LSU Bama 2007, thoughts re college football culture
Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:42 pm
To go back far enough and watch a game makes the contrast really, really stark.
First, Glenn Dorsey had an injury scare. He got a hurt knee, and Gary Danielson was arguing up and down to pull him. Dorsey had gone out of his way to come back to college one more time (pre NIL!) when he was going to be a high, high pick and make millions. Instead, he the player was fighting that and coaches (they told him it was his decision if he felt good enough to go back in during the game) to go back in to play after coming back another year. Absolute turnaround from leaving early. Absolute selflessness. Unthinkable now.
Second, a comment was made about a bama player serving a team imposed suspension for some academic violation, presumably cheating or not doing well in a class. Today?? Who could care LESS about class? It's minor league football! Go play! Screw school.
A third. Numerous players were pointed out as having been recruited by Saban but now were starters and contributors under Miles. And this was multiple years after Saban had left. Today? Even WITHOUT a coaching change, you're lucky to keep a couple of players for two consecutive years. They seem to transfer just for a literal change of scenery, even when depth in front or behind them is bad and they'll definitely play. Before? The players are THERE because that's what the frick happens. You commit to a school and that's generally it. Our third string QB did transfer from Harvard, but that's the exception.
Bonus. Toonces unironically everywhere was also wild.
First, Glenn Dorsey had an injury scare. He got a hurt knee, and Gary Danielson was arguing up and down to pull him. Dorsey had gone out of his way to come back to college one more time (pre NIL!) when he was going to be a high, high pick and make millions. Instead, he the player was fighting that and coaches (they told him it was his decision if he felt good enough to go back in during the game) to go back in to play after coming back another year. Absolute turnaround from leaving early. Absolute selflessness. Unthinkable now.
Second, a comment was made about a bama player serving a team imposed suspension for some academic violation, presumably cheating or not doing well in a class. Today?? Who could care LESS about class? It's minor league football! Go play! Screw school.
A third. Numerous players were pointed out as having been recruited by Saban but now were starters and contributors under Miles. And this was multiple years after Saban had left. Today? Even WITHOUT a coaching change, you're lucky to keep a couple of players for two consecutive years. They seem to transfer just for a literal change of scenery, even when depth in front or behind them is bad and they'll definitely play. Before? The players are THERE because that's what the frick happens. You commit to a school and that's generally it. Our third string QB did transfer from Harvard, but that's the exception.
Bonus. Toonces unironically everywhere was also wild.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 12:45 pm to Barbellthor
Society has become selfish and all about me, we’ve lost the idea of fighting through adversity when everything isn’t going your way.
And as society, we enabled it to happen. Greed is an evil thing
And as society, we enabled it to happen. Greed is an evil thing
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:09 pm to MasterAbe1
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And as society, we enabled it to happen. Greed is an evil thing
100%
I do think that it's tough from the outside to put yourself in the position of a player who has a high draft rating putting themselves in way of harm though, when making a decision to fight through an injury and stay on the field. Making a long term decision in the heat of the moment is certainly something I wouldn't wish to have to do.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:16 pm to MasterAbe1
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Society has become selfish and all about me, we’ve lost the idea of fighting through adversity when everything isn’t going your way.
And as society, we enabled it to happen. Greed is an evil thing
I mean, to play devil's advocate, we have been pretty selfish too. Let's take for instance Dorsey, who was projected to be a first rounder as a junior. As fans, we have no financial skin in the game but we want underclassmen in his situation to come back so we can enjoy watching them play football but he has to assume 100% of the risk. If he gets a debilitating injury, it wouldn't change your life one bit as a fan but it for sure would've changed his for the worse. Why is it not selfish as fans for us to roast guys that leave early when they take on all the risk?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 1:21 pm to JayVegas702
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I do think that it's tough from the outside to put yourself in the position of a player who has a high draft rating putting themselves in way of harm though, when making a decision to fight through an injury and stay on the field. Making a long term decision in the heat of the moment is certainly something I wouldn't wish to have to do.
Agreed. Framing a situation is so impactful for understanding someone else's point of view. Just imagine for a minute that you had the chance to hit an 8 figure payday by switching jobs. Imagine the change that would bring to you and your family. Then imagine some dudes on their couch like to watch you work and say you're uncommitted if you don't stay. Keep in mind, none of them will pay you a dime if you're injured and you lose out on the big promotion, they'll just move on and forget you exist. What call are you making?
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 1:24 pm
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