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re: Rewatched the condensed 2016 Bama game...
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:59 pm to Canwoodtiger
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:59 pm to Canwoodtiger
Totally agree. He's shown enough to not throw in the towel, but not enough to be too excited.
I could see 2800 yards passing this year. I could see him getting pulled as a starter.
To his defense, his best games were Texas AM and UF. His stats were solid versus UL but his wide receivers showed up to play that day.
If he gives us UF and AM every week, I really like our chances this year.
I could see 2800 yards passing this year. I could see him getting pulled as a starter.
To his defense, his best games were Texas AM and UF. His stats were solid versus UL but his wide receivers showed up to play that day.
If he gives us UF and AM every week, I really like our chances this year.
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:02 pm to tuptiger
Should have been a safety on Bama with about two minutes left in the first quarter. Hurts is clearly between the tackles and just chunks it out of bounds to no one. Intentional grounding in the endzone would have been 2 pts to lsu and the ball... not that they would have done anything with the ball...
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:09 pm to tuptiger
So it really does come down to execution. Hmmm ??????
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:17 pm to airbornetiger
Not necessarily. Miles theory seemed to be that. If you're running the ball into a stacked box, it's not execution when you can't gain any yards.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:18 pm to tuptiger
LSU has bigger problems than the Alabama game right now
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:22 pm to Draconian Sanctions
To me, under normal coaching with a decent offense, it's a one game season for us some years.
Auburn has been very hit or miss. On a yearly basis the last few years, we're better than every team we play on talent other than Bama.
With minimal offensive passing production last year, and no flukish fumbles vs UF, we're 11-1.
This year, we have the following swing games:
@Bama
@UT
@UF
vs. Auburn
Of those 4, we're probably better than 2 of them, but they're away. I'd think we'd be favored to win @UT and @UF
We get Auburn at home, but Stidham may change their outlook. I'd think we'd be favored vs. Auburn at home.
We won't be favored @Bama.
Going into the season, we'll probably be favored versus every opponent with the exception of Bama. Ole Miss is a dumpster fire and it may get worse. Their defense is absolutely terrible even though I think Patterson is the real deal. We also get them later in the season, and by that time, they may have quit. AM is similar and they're in BR next year. Arkansas is at home. Good QB. No defense.
@MSU early is slightly concerning, but they lost a lot on defense.
Unless a team outperforms their expectations, which is definitely possible, we're set up to win 11 games next year.
Auburn has been very hit or miss. On a yearly basis the last few years, we're better than every team we play on talent other than Bama.
With minimal offensive passing production last year, and no flukish fumbles vs UF, we're 11-1.
This year, we have the following swing games:
@Bama
@UT
@UF
vs. Auburn
Of those 4, we're probably better than 2 of them, but they're away. I'd think we'd be favored to win @UT and @UF
We get Auburn at home, but Stidham may change their outlook. I'd think we'd be favored vs. Auburn at home.
We won't be favored @Bama.
Going into the season, we'll probably be favored versus every opponent with the exception of Bama. Ole Miss is a dumpster fire and it may get worse. Their defense is absolutely terrible even though I think Patterson is the real deal. We also get them later in the season, and by that time, they may have quit. AM is similar and they're in BR next year. Arkansas is at home. Good QB. No defense.
@MSU early is slightly concerning, but they lost a lot on defense.
Unless a team outperforms their expectations, which is definitely possible, we're set up to win 11 games next year.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:34 pm to TFarrar30
Substituting to deceive is a 15 yard penalty.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:39 pm to tuptiger
We threw the ball in 2015, that's how we scored, Harris threw a pic in the 2nd half too. We scored more points in 2015 but had a better plan in 2016?
1/9/2012. 2013, 2015 and 2016 were all lost at the LOS by an offensive line that could not meet their one on one responsibilities..
Steroids or better players ?
Nov 2012 and 2014 were lost by 3rd and Chavis.
1/9/2012. 2013, 2015 and 2016 were all lost at the LOS by an offensive line that could not meet their one on one responsibilities..
Steroids or better players ?
Nov 2012 and 2014 were lost by 3rd and Chavis.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 6:53 pm to tuptiger
quote:
into the season, we'll probably be favored versus every opponent with the exception of Bama
We lost a lot on defense, and while I have full faith in Aranda, there are still a lot of question marks on that side of the ball, especially at MLB and S, which are the two positions that are normally your "coaches" on the field. We have immense talent at both spots, it's just inexperienced right now.. Just have to hope they get up to speed quickly..
Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:24 pm to BayouBengals18
quote:
We lost a lot on defense
Yes we did.... however.. To help the losses on D we need an offense that can be effective and using plays........ TOTAL PLAYS in A game can be HUGE.. Canada wants to use all this wide-open stuff is fine,,,,, But I would rather A offense that can control the ball and keep the D fresh.................
Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:27 pm to ecb
quote:
1/9/2012. 2013, 2015 and 2016 were all lost at the LOS by an offensive line that could not meet their one on one responsibilities..
2012 was not A bad offense and 2013 was A GREAT offense... The lines were fine.............
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:02 pm to tuptiger
Hell no we arent far away. It's been that way for several years now though. Our qb has to improve and our offensive philosophy has to improve. We are right there. Our talent matches bamas. That's not a question. What saban does with his talent and what miles did with his talent has been the deciding factor. It's really not that difficult.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:07 pm to tuptiger
Did you see LF missing open holes and cut back lanes?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:39 pm to Tigerfan53
Fournette tried to do too much at points, but some of it was running into a stacked box.
I like throwing on early downs. When we did this, and hit a few passes, running lanes opened up.
This was a bad game for Etling. It was ok from a scheme standpoint, but we couldn't get anything going passing the ball.
O has a chance this year. I know we lost some key players on defense, but the recruiting class hit the spot on defense. We need some depth at LB, but I like Divinity and I love White. If one of them steps up, I think we're fine at LB.
I think we'll be more than ok at safety. Adams is not replaceable, but I think we're fine with Delpit, Stevens, Battle, Monroe, and Paris.
Chaisson and Anthony will be fine filling in for Bower. I think Gilmore and Herron are fine filling in for Godchaux. Neal will be tough to replace. We'll add Shelvin. I trust O, Aranda and Raymond to field a top 10 defense.
Offensively, guys Dural isn't a huge loss. When watching the condensed games, he could no longer create separation. Chark was our best receiver, and Gage is a nice player. Dupre was very inconsistent catching the ball and creating separation.
Another thing is we need to throw the ball the the freaking tight ends. Ensminger used the tight ends way more than Cam/Miles, and it worked, but even he didn't use them enough.
Our oline will be better imo. We return Etling and Guice.
We return more than enough on offense. If Canada can get 2500-3000 passing yards out of Etling, I like our chances. If we're shuffling QBs all year, we'll be competitive but not for the playoff. Many underestimate what we did under Miles with absolutely no balance on offense.
We can beat 8-9 teams on our schedule with defense and our running game. It's the teams that can stop our run that did us in under Miles. I have confidence Orgeron is not content with the lack of a passing game, and he won't settle for what our offense became under Miles. He's said as much in his post game press conferences.
I like throwing on early downs. When we did this, and hit a few passes, running lanes opened up.
This was a bad game for Etling. It was ok from a scheme standpoint, but we couldn't get anything going passing the ball.
O has a chance this year. I know we lost some key players on defense, but the recruiting class hit the spot on defense. We need some depth at LB, but I like Divinity and I love White. If one of them steps up, I think we're fine at LB.
I think we'll be more than ok at safety. Adams is not replaceable, but I think we're fine with Delpit, Stevens, Battle, Monroe, and Paris.
Chaisson and Anthony will be fine filling in for Bower. I think Gilmore and Herron are fine filling in for Godchaux. Neal will be tough to replace. We'll add Shelvin. I trust O, Aranda and Raymond to field a top 10 defense.
Offensively, guys Dural isn't a huge loss. When watching the condensed games, he could no longer create separation. Chark was our best receiver, and Gage is a nice player. Dupre was very inconsistent catching the ball and creating separation.
Another thing is we need to throw the ball the the freaking tight ends. Ensminger used the tight ends way more than Cam/Miles, and it worked, but even he didn't use them enough.
Our oline will be better imo. We return Etling and Guice.
We return more than enough on offense. If Canada can get 2500-3000 passing yards out of Etling, I like our chances. If we're shuffling QBs all year, we'll be competitive but not for the playoff. Many underestimate what we did under Miles with absolutely no balance on offense.
We can beat 8-9 teams on our schedule with defense and our running game. It's the teams that can stop our run that did us in under Miles. I have confidence Orgeron is not content with the lack of a passing game, and he won't settle for what our offense became under Miles. He's said as much in his post game press conferences.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:48 pm to tuptiger
I agree with your post about that we should have only lost one game last year. I created a whole topic about it. We gave up 3 touchdowns in 4 total losses. Most teams give up 3 touchdowns in a single game! That stat is unheard of. Bama was the only team better than us. The Florida game was a disgusting fluke. We should have beat Wisconsin and should have beaten Auburn on the road because they didn't get in the end zone. Les Miles ruined the season and many others after 2011.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:01 pm to tuptiger
quote:
Our offensive game plan was better than under Miles
it was the same thing. Run LF into Bama's strength.
quote:
We still tried to run into a brick wall sometimes, BUT it wasn't as bad as even 2011 @Bama. It was a better game plan
It was basically the same...
1/9/12 = 5 1st downs and 92 total yards
11/5/16= 6 1st downs and 125 yards
quote:
It wasn't as bad in '16. We wasted a couple of timeouts, but Ed O was pissed. Miles might have been happy.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:05 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
quote:
Our talent matches bamas.
bullshite. This is the problem we have in our fanbase. There are lsu fans that actually believe we are jist as talented as bama and it's not true.
Since 2010 bama has had less than 7 players drafted just one time.
Since 2010 lsu has had less than 7 players drafted 5 times.
Here is the last 4 classes in the sec before this year...
As you can see... the gap between lsu and ole miss is smaller than the gap between bama and lsu.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:38 pm to tuptiger
Our field position was ridiculous. Missed a FG (should have took that shite into the endzone in 4-5 plays) and couldn't finish the drives we had.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 10:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
We threw the ball 17 times in '11 @Bama
We threw the ball 24 times in '16 vs. Bama
We also had the ball more in the '11 game.
We had 51 total offensive snaps in '16.
We had 58 total offensive snaps in '11.
So there was a greater opportunity to call passes. Nice try though. We threw the ball 7 more times in 7 fewer plays.
We threw the ball 24 times in '16 vs. Bama
We also had the ball more in the '11 game.
We had 51 total offensive snaps in '16.
We had 58 total offensive snaps in '11.
So there was a greater opportunity to call passes. Nice try though. We threw the ball 7 more times in 7 fewer plays.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 11:12 pm to tuptiger
quote:
We threw the ball 17 times in '11 @Bama
We threw the ball 24 times in '16 vs. Bama
We also had the ball more in the '11 game.
We had 51 total offensive snaps in '16.
We had 58 total offensive snaps in '11.
So there was a greater opportunity to call passes. Nice try though. We threw the ball 7 more times in 7 fewer plays.
That's not some huge difference.
As if less than 2 more passes per quarter is a different game plan.
Regardless. The majority of the time we ran straight into the strenght of bama's defense.
quote:
We threw the ball 17 times in '11 @Bama
We threw the ball 24 times in '16 vs. Bama
We also had the ball more in the '11 game.
We had 51 total offensive snaps in '16.
We had 58 total offensive snaps in '11.
This isn't some huge disparity.
I agree that our offense was better in the 2016 game. I just don't think there was a big difference in game plan.
What makes me mad about the 2016 game was tbat we didn't run any of the new wrinkles that O and Ensminger had run earlier.
Where were the plays with LF and Guice in the same backfield?
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 11:17 pm
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