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re: Regarding 6/14 ~100 yards
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:36 pm to sealawyer
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:36 pm to sealawyer
quote:
I re-watched the game yesterday. In my (very) unprofessional opinion 4 of those incomplete passes should have been caught.
Okay, but we can often nit pick on this. The 2012 season was full of this.. The past 2 years were full of this.
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Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:42 pm to beauchristopher
quote:
In my (very) unprofessional opinion 4 of those incomplete passes should have been caught
But they wasn't.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:43 pm to sealawyer
15/18 of 27/29
58-62%,
180-225 yds
1-2 Tds
0-1 ints
We will win a lot of games.
58-62%,
180-225 yds
1-2 Tds
0-1 ints
We will win a lot of games.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:51 pm to sealawyer
Etling probably got around 15-20 % of first team reps.
There was not much game film on him.
The second half JSU made adjustments.
NOW
Etling is probably getting 80% of first team snaps
He has more time to establish bonds with his offensive teammates.
There was not much game film on him.
The second half JSU made adjustments.
NOW
Etling is probably getting 80% of first team snaps
He has more time to establish bonds with his offensive teammates.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 1:58 pm to 1999
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but I am casually optimistic that he's not a sub-50% completion kinda guy.
leslie has managed to set the bar incredibly low
.what? Miles' qbs have had some of the best completion% in lsu history. There are enough valid reason to call miles out on without making shite up.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 2:09 pm to sealawyer
quote:
In my (very) unprofessional opinion 4 of those incomplete passes should have been caught.
Well, at least you qualified your opinion. Even Jarvis Landry doesn't catch four of them. He probably catches one of the deep throws, and he definitely catches the one that hit Malachi right in the hands when he was not even in contact with a defender. The one to the TE was played well by the defender. So probably two for a stat line of 8 of 14. Still kind of lousy.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:10 pm to Penrod
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Even Jarvis Landry doesn't catch four of them.
Really? You might have the shortest memory of any LSU fan in history. I can't remember Landry dropping 4 passes in his LSU although I'm sure he did. But I can sure as hell remember him making more than 4 catches that were all much more difficult than the drops we saw Saturday night.
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This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:23 pm to LSU82BILL
People throw around this "drop" term far too easily.
At the absolute most there were 2 drops against JSU. Dupre's very obvious one, and then Dupre's "drop" where the defender made a great play from behind to pull down his left hand.
Not every good throw that ends incomplete is a fricking drop. The Jeter throw on Etling's first attempt is a great example. Very nice play from the defender doesn't erase the good throw, but it isn't a drop either. Alternatively, not every ball that is caught is a good pass, although I don't recall any notable catches from this crew through the first two games.
At the absolute most there were 2 drops against JSU. Dupre's very obvious one, and then Dupre's "drop" where the defender made a great play from behind to pull down his left hand.
Not every good throw that ends incomplete is a fricking drop. The Jeter throw on Etling's first attempt is a great example. Very nice play from the defender doesn't erase the good throw, but it isn't a drop either. Alternatively, not every ball that is caught is a good pass, although I don't recall any notable catches from this crew through the first two games.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:34 pm to slackster
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People throw around this "drop" term far too easily.
If you think that drops only apply to perfectly thrown balls that hit the receiver in stride, we can agree to disagree. 4 of those incomplete passes were very catchable balls.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:37 pm to Jacknola
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Christ, just quit for god's sake. First it was two passes that should have been caught, Then it was three. Now it is four. Soon it will be 5-6-or-7.
6 of 14 for 100 yards isn't anything to write home about, but most of his throws were close to their targets. Not 5 feet over the head of the receiver or 4-5 feet to far ahead or behind the intended receiver. Nobody knows how good or bad Ethling will play going forward, but what he did last week looked pretty good for someone that hasn't played in a game for well over a year.
I don't think anyone should be critical of somebody showing a little excitement over the kid's performance last Saturday.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:40 pm to LSU82BILL
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If you think that drops only apply to perfectly thrown balls that hit the receiver in stride, we can agree to disagree. 4 of those incomplete passes were very catchable balls.
No I don't think it has to be perfect. I think that 2nd ball to Dupre that everyone harps on was a good defensive play but even if I concede it was a drop, it was still a poor throw.
The pass to Jeter to start was a great throw, a nice defensive play, and it wasn't a drop. The Jeter pass was catchable, but not a drop. The first Malachi pass was assuredly a drop. The pass to Dupre after the INT may have been a drop and it was catchable. That's 3. Calling the ball to Guice a catchable ball is a stretch IMO.
Like many other offenses, the QB could help the WRs out sometimes and the WRs should bail out the QB sometimes. I look forward to a little more of both in the immediate future.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:40 pm to sealawyer
It wasn't 4 drops, maybe 3.5.
The one to Guice IMO is on both a little. Etling overthrew it, Guice sped up and got a hand on it, but couldn't reel it in. Guice pounded his chest saying my fault but it was both really...I wouldn't call that a drop on Guice 100%.
Dupre absolutely drops 2 passes and Jeter had the first (hits right off his helmet...went right through his hands).
Jeter's drop would have been about a 30 yard gain
Dupre's first drop would have been about a 23 yard gain
Dupre's second drop would have been about a 50 yard gain
That's 103 yards...so he would have been 9/14 for 203 yards...which is amazing
The one to Guice IMO is on both a little. Etling overthrew it, Guice sped up and got a hand on it, but couldn't reel it in. Guice pounded his chest saying my fault but it was both really...I wouldn't call that a drop on Guice 100%.
Dupre absolutely drops 2 passes and Jeter had the first (hits right off his helmet...went right through his hands).
Jeter's drop would have been about a 30 yard gain
Dupre's first drop would have been about a 23 yard gain
Dupre's second drop would have been about a 50 yard gain
That's 103 yards...so he would have been 9/14 for 203 yards...which is amazing
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:41 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:All those that are "Fond" of "Athletic DT QB's" on here absolutely hate what transpired.
While the stat line may not impress, he sure as hell looked the part. Composed, showing leadership, great footwork, pocket presence, read through his progressions, accurate in short to medium range passes. It was definitely a welcome sight, even if only for a game.
Their boy got the axe and they can't stand it.
Their paradigm of beliefs/agenda of what a QB is supposed to be, (Close to the Miles thought process) is going down in flames.
Jennings gone. Harris pulled and may not see much more playing time. They're all terrorized and
in their Wheaties...........Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:47 pm to thunderbird1100
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Dupre's second drop would have been about a 50 yard gain
This drop would have been a TD if the ball is thrown in front of him after he had beat the DB handily. It works both ways.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:54 pm to slackster
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The difference between Etling and Harris, up to this point, is that A) Etling simply looks better doing it from a fundamental standpoint and B) Etling strung together a nice quarter - 6/8 is better than we've seen from Harris in any stretch this year.
No. I would say the difference is LSU scored more points than the opponent with Etling at QB for whatever reason. The stats are useless for Etling so far, other than the W. He really only played 2 quarters anyway. Les put the parking brake on in the fourth quarter as expected.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 3:57 pm to slackster
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This drop would have been a TD if the ball is thrown in front of him after he had beat the DB handily. It works both ways.
I wouldnt expect Danny to hit someone in stride on a 60 yard pass. He put the ball up, Dupre had 1 on 1 and was in front of the defender, he goes up, gets his hands on it and cant come down with. That goes entirely on Dupre. His hands have been downright AWFUL. Still wasn't as bad as that first drop Dupre had which was a ball that had great touch on it and Dupre had no defender to worry about. The guys falling down on our sideline told it all there.
Dupre would have about 200 yards receiving this year if he just caught the balls that hit him in the hands. Instead he has 3 catches for 24 yards and a 15 yard PI after 15 targets. He has just been dragging this offense down as bad as anyone, coaches included.
This post was edited on 9/14/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 9/14/16 at 4:03 pm to Jacknola
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Jacknola
Shut the frick up!
Posted on 9/14/16 at 4:42 pm to thunderbird1100
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Dupre would have about 200 yards receiving this year if he just caught the balls that hit him in the hands. Instead he has 3 catches for 24 yards and a 15 yard PI after 15 targets. He has just been dragging this offense down as bad as anyone, coaches included.
All true.
Posted on 9/14/16 at 6:15 pm to semjase
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semjase
God can you ever make a post without being a condescending a-hole?
Posted on 9/14/16 at 6:20 pm to Jacknola
Why are you on the lsu forum? Gfy dickwad.
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