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re: Refresh My Memory on Why Dinardo Was Hired
Posted on 3/17/10 at 8:36 am to tigerfootball10
Posted on 3/17/10 at 8:36 am to tigerfootball10
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This thread is typical of the Rant. A bunch of kids born in the 1990's making comments about things that happened when they were in diapers. Same people are posting in the Baddest Tiger Thread saying Harry Coleman could whip Erik Andolsek.
Yep. They have no real point of reference or very little. Funny the kids born in 1991 commenting on Dinardo, who was hired in late 1994. They should preface there posts:
"I was only in diapers, but my opinion is.."
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Posted on 3/17/10 at 8:39 am to DaBeerz
Dean was a retard. Only cared about bb. Glad when he was gone. 
Posted on 3/17/10 at 8:47 am to cajunjj
Let's not act like DiNardo was awful. He went 10-2 and 9-3 in his 2nd and 3rd seasons. He recruited well. Ask Saban the kind of talent he inherited.
DiNardo made really bad coordinator hires.
DiNardo made really bad coordinator hires.
Posted on 3/17/10 at 8:47 am to Honkus
Get real, Dinardo stunk on many levels, as did Archer and Hallman. LSU was not about to pay big bucks for a premium coach in those days and now they shell out an absurd salary to Gomer Miles who will never be more than an 8 win coach. I loved LSU growing up but they can take a hike now because they've become nothing more than a revenue generating machine like every other stinking team in this country. Sorry, but I'll be spending my saturday afternoons on the golf course come autumn.......or fishing.....or bowling....or............etc.......
Posted on 3/17/10 at 9:00 am to StormSurgeon
I was in the GBFTL from '93 to '97...the first two years with Curley were freaking terrible...most memorable moment was in '94, I think, when Florida came into Tiger Stadium and beat us like a drum, in the 50s or 60s to single digits...and of course being a part of the band we had to stay and watch the entire massacre, while everyone else left. Bring on Dinardo, brought back "the magic" and the next three years were a blast...winning some games and going to the Indy Bowl twice and Peach Bowl once...I know it's not major BCS bowls of the past few years but to us it was fantastic. Thanks Dinardo 
Posted on 3/17/10 at 9:00 am to StormSurgeon
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Get real, Dinardo stunk on many levels, as did Archer and Hallman. LSU was not about to pay big bucks for a premium coach in those days and now they shell out an absurd salary to Gomer Miles who will never be more than an 8 win coach. I loved LSU growing up but they can take a hike now because they've become nothing more than a revenue generating machine like every other stinking team in this country. Sorry, but I'll be spending my saturday afternoons on the golf course come autumn.......or fishing.....or bowling....or............etc.......
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Oops, forgot to mention South Alabama since I'm an alumni, even though it will be a few more years before the Jaguar football team will be running at full speed.
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Posted on 3/17/10 at 9:05 am to DrEdgeLSU
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Yes.
4-7 = 8-5
3-8 = 9-4
You are on the right track.
you misunderstand as well.
I know its tough at times but at least try to read and comprehend the post before you type replies that make you look more stupid than you already are.
Posted on 3/17/10 at 9:06 am to StormSurgeon
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Sorry, but I'll be spending my saturday afternoons on the golf course come autumn.......or fishing.....or bowling....or............etc.......
Thank you, thank you, and thank you!!
Posted on 3/17/10 at 10:49 am to Green Ram 2
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Why Dinardo Was Hired
I was just looking at his previous stop's record and he never had a winning record at Vandy. Why was he given the keys to the LSU program?
Nobody had winning seasons at Vandy. Their 2008 winning season was their first in 24 years. DiNardo had Vandy playing very competitively and they did go 5-6 a time or two under his leadership. In addition, we were in a bit of a bind with the Pat Sullivan hire falling through like it did, so we had to go with our second (or possibly lower) choice. Joe Dean was the AD, so we were, as always, going on the cheap, which eliminated any real top-tier candidates. All things considered, DiNardo seemed like a pretty good choice at the time. It wasn't until he had been here a while that his personality issues screwed things up.
Posted on 3/17/10 at 10:51 am to JustSmokin
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DiNardo made really bad coordinator hires.
He didn't at first, but when personality clashes occurred with the good ones he started with, he started getting paranoid and hiring based on relationships rather than on competence. That got him in big trouble.
Posted on 3/17/10 at 10:52 am to tigerfootball10
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Same people are posting in the Baddest Tiger Thread saying Harry Coleman could whip Erik Andolsek.
Well, admittedly, if the fight were today, my money would be on Coleman. Yes, I know that's terrible, but what the hell?
Posted on 3/17/10 at 11:11 am to Nuts4LSU
faulk was fricking electric; we sucked my jr & sr year but IMO it was worth it to watch that guy run
Many don't realize that this elusive athelete played behing one LSU's greatest linemen in Allen Fanaca in 96 & 97, and things would have bee different for LSU in 98 if he had returned for his senior year.
However even with out Alan, Faulk ran for over 1300 yrds but LSU only managed a 4 and 7 season during which they lost by less than 7 points 5 times that season..
Many don't realize that this elusive athelete played behing one LSU's greatest linemen in Allen Fanaca in 96 & 97, and things would have bee different for LSU in 98 if he had returned for his senior year.
However even with out Alan, Faulk ran for over 1300 yrds but LSU only managed a 4 and 7 season during which they lost by less than 7 points 5 times that season..
Posted on 3/17/10 at 11:21 am to Flyin Tighas
Dinardo: ND pedigree, OC on a MNC team at Colorado, SEC Coach of the Year at Vandy and he was a great talker/salesman when the University had been stung by Coach Cro-Magnon Hallman
Dinardo was a great recruiter and he had his best seasons when he had legit Coordinators on his staff. OC Morris Watts and DC Carl Reese were pretty highly regarded.
however Dinardo was a meddler and he and Carl Reese got into it in the 97 season and Reese went to Texas. Dinardo replaced him with Tepper and that didnt work too well.
Dinardo got into it with Morris Watts and Watts left for Michigan State. Dinardo replaced him with WR Coach Bob McConnell, but in reality Dinardo was his own OC and it didnt work.
A prominent former player told me once that GerryD had an epic meltdown in the locker room at Arky at the end of 98. He became completely paranoid and irrational in the 99 season and basically fell apart emotionally as the team collapsed around him. LSU lost to Houston at home, fired Dinardo and that was that.
Dinardo was a great recruiter and he had his best seasons when he had legit Coordinators on his staff. OC Morris Watts and DC Carl Reese were pretty highly regarded.
however Dinardo was a meddler and he and Carl Reese got into it in the 97 season and Reese went to Texas. Dinardo replaced him with Tepper and that didnt work too well.
Dinardo got into it with Morris Watts and Watts left for Michigan State. Dinardo replaced him with WR Coach Bob McConnell, but in reality Dinardo was his own OC and it didnt work.
A prominent former player told me once that GerryD had an epic meltdown in the locker room at Arky at the end of 98. He became completely paranoid and irrational in the 99 season and basically fell apart emotionally as the team collapsed around him. LSU lost to Houston at home, fired Dinardo and that was that.
Posted on 3/17/10 at 11:36 am to Flyin Tighas
I've been watching the Tigers since the last years of the Cholly Mac era. As far back as I can remember, LSU fans have been a surly and dissatisfied lot. We had to get rid of Cholly, who had presided over the greatest era of LSU football to that time. Go back and look at what the Tigers did during the 60s. They were a Top 10 of the decade kind of program.
So, we have the tragedy with Bo Rein after Cholly got the boot, then we bring in Jerry Stovall who didn't last very long. Then, we bring in the mercenary Bill Arnsparger, who had great teams, but had some of the most inexplicable losses in LSU history and couldn't seem to win a bowl game. Then, he goes to Florida where he wanted to be. Then, instead of hiring Steve Spurrier or Mack Brown in 1987, we let Arnsparger's DC Mike Archer take the reigns, and he begins our death march after the glorious 1987 season (my first season on campus). We had one more decent year in 1988 then the wheels fell off for seven straight years (2 with Archer, 5 with Hallman). Who can ever forget Curley's confidence building statement when he was first hired: "I can't promise you victories, but I can tell you one thing. This team will be competitive." The score of the Florida game in 1993 was 58-3, and we scored first.
I always liked Gerry Dinardo. His bravado was needed after 7 years mired in the muck. We beat Saban at Michigan State in our bowl game his first year. We had a 10 win season. Even his first bad year, when we went 4-7, wasn't terrible. Go back and check our scores from 1998. We had an incredibly difficult schedule that year, and every game was tight, except we got blown out by Arkansas at the end of the season. Saban came in with Dinardo's players and won right away. Dinardo left the cupboard much less bare than when he arrived.
So, we have the tragedy with Bo Rein after Cholly got the boot, then we bring in Jerry Stovall who didn't last very long. Then, we bring in the mercenary Bill Arnsparger, who had great teams, but had some of the most inexplicable losses in LSU history and couldn't seem to win a bowl game. Then, he goes to Florida where he wanted to be. Then, instead of hiring Steve Spurrier or Mack Brown in 1987, we let Arnsparger's DC Mike Archer take the reigns, and he begins our death march after the glorious 1987 season (my first season on campus). We had one more decent year in 1988 then the wheels fell off for seven straight years (2 with Archer, 5 with Hallman). Who can ever forget Curley's confidence building statement when he was first hired: "I can't promise you victories, but I can tell you one thing. This team will be competitive." The score of the Florida game in 1993 was 58-3, and we scored first.
I always liked Gerry Dinardo. His bravado was needed after 7 years mired in the muck. We beat Saban at Michigan State in our bowl game his first year. We had a 10 win season. Even his first bad year, when we went 4-7, wasn't terrible. Go back and check our scores from 1998. We had an incredibly difficult schedule that year, and every game was tight, except we got blown out by Arkansas at the end of the season. Saban came in with Dinardo's players and won right away. Dinardo left the cupboard much less bare than when he arrived.
Posted on 3/17/10 at 11:45 am to Tigerpaul1969
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I've been watching the Tigers since the last years of the Cholly Mac era. As far back as I can remember, LSU fans have been a surly and dissatisfied lot. We had to get rid of Cholly, who had presided over the greatest era of LSU football to that time. Go back and look at what the Tigers did during the 60s. They were a Top 10 of the decade kind of program.
So, we have the tragedy with Bo Rein after Cholly got the boot, then we bring in Jerry Stovall who didn't last very long. Then, we bring in the mercenary Bill Arnsparger, who had great teams, but had some of the most inexplicable losses in LSU history and couldn't seem to win a bowl game. Then, he goes to Florida where he wanted to be. Then, instead of hiring Steve Spurrier or Mack Brown in 1987, we let Arnsparger's DC Mike Archer take the reigns, and he begins our death march after the glorious 1987 season (my first season on campus). We had one more decent year in 1988 then the wheels fell off for seven straight years (2 with Archer, 5 with Hallman). Who can ever forget Curley's confidence building statement when he was first hired: "I can't promise you victories, but I can tell you one thing. This team will be competitive." The score of the Florida game in 1993 was 58-3, and we scored first.
I always liked Gerry Dinardo. His bravado was needed after 7 years mired in the muck. We beat Saban at Michigan State in our bowl game his first year. We had a 10 win season. Even his first bad year, when we went 4-7, wasn't terrible. Go back and check our scores from 1998. We had an incredibly difficult schedule that year, and every game was tight, except we got blown out by Arkansas at the end of the season. Saban came in with Dinardo's players and won right away. Dinardo left the cupboard much less bare than when he arrived.
Wow, someone with an accurate memory. I love it.
We must be about the same age because I was a Cholly (circa 1970's) baby.
Our sentence for helping Mac Pack was 20 years in the coaching wilderness.
I wonder how long the football gods will punish us if we topple the Hat.
Repeat offenders normally get harsher punishment so maybe we'll have to go 30 or 40 years of wishing we still had that crazy talking Miles fella...
Posted on 3/17/10 at 11:51 am to Tigerpaul1969
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Bill Arnsparger, who had great teams, but had some of the most inexplicable losses in LSU history
What inexplicable losses?
1984:
1-Notre Dame. They had a strong running game and our defense was riddled with injuries. An upset, yes, but certainly not "inexplicable".
2- Mississippi State. Another upset, but we had started a trend of losing this "trap" game back in the '70s. 1984 was our fifth straight loss to them. Hardly inexplicable.
3-Nebraska. They were obviously a superior team. Nothing inexplicable about this one.
1985:
1-Florida. They were perhaps the best team in the country that year. We hung in there for a long time, trailing 10-0 going in the 4th quarter (their TD came on a trick play halfback pass). Late the 4th, we had to go for it on 4th down deep in our territory twice, leading to their other 10 points in a 20-0 loss that was anything but inexplicable.
2-Baylor. A poor effort on our part, but our offense had been suspect all season, so it wasn't a shock that it got shut down. Again, a surprising loss maybe, but hardly inexplicable.
1986:
1-Miami, Ohio. Yes, this is the one inexplicable loss of the Arnsparger era. They were a better team than they got credit for, and we had a big letdown after the big win over Texas A&M the week before.
2-Ole Miss. Surprised me, but Ole Miss was actually a good team that year. If not for a loss to Tennessee in the 2nd to last game of the year, they would have shared the SEC championship with us that year.
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Then, he goes to Florida where he wanted to be. Then, instead of hiring Steve Spurrier or Mack Brown in 1987, we let Arnsparger's DC Mike Archer take the reigns
Probably the single biggest coaching hire blunder in the history of a school known for them. Bob Brodhead had resigned and we were in the process of bringing in Joe Dean, but he wasn't there yet, and the interim guy didn't really want to make a big move. They appointed an idiotic "faculty committee" to find the new coach, with predictable results. That committee, and the decision to appoint them, came dangerously close to destroying LSU as a football power.
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always liked Gerry Dinardo. His bravado was needed after 7 years mired in the muck. We beat Saban at Michigan State in our bowl game his first year. We had a 10 win season. Even his first bad year, when we went 4-7, wasn't terrible. Go back and check our scores from 1998. We had an incredibly difficult schedule that year, and every game was tight, except we got blown out by Arkansas at the end of the season. Saban came in with Dinardo's players and won right away.
I'll agree with all of this, but not this...
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Dinardo left the cupboard much less bare than when he arrived.
Check out who we had in his first year, 1995. A defense studded with amazing talent, and some real firepower on offense, was inherited from Curley Hallman who, like Miles, could sign them but just couldn't get results with them. The roster had more talent going into 1995 than it did going into 2000, or at the very least, just as much.
Posted on 3/17/10 at 12:35 pm to LSUDad
If "D" had managed to keep his original staff intact, he still might be here. Things started to fall apart when Ron Case (DB coach) left to be on Mack Browns staff at North Carolina, then DC Carl Reese went to Texas. Enter Lou Tepper as DC/LB coach and Ed Cullen to coach DL. All downhill from there. There was also some kind of offensive fiasco with a combination WR/QB coach and NO offensive coordinator. Stubborn "D" refused to replace the incompetents and the rest is history.
Miles better hope that his "DiNardo like" decision to keep Crowton/Stud on the staff
(Or Alleva's refusal to eat contract buyout's) doesn't come back to bite them on the arse.
At least he brought in Gonzales and Wilson, which coaching/teaching wise should be great improvements .......
Miles better hope that his "DiNardo like" decision to keep Crowton/Stud on the staff
(Or Alleva's refusal to eat contract buyout's) doesn't come back to bite them on the arse.
At least he brought in Gonzales and Wilson, which coaching/teaching wise should be great improvements .......
Posted on 3/17/10 at 12:39 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
come on alumnus I know you don't like the frank wilson hire
Posted on 3/17/10 at 12:52 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
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Miles better hope that his "DiNardo like" decision to keep Crowton/Stud on the staff
(Or Alleva's refusal to eat contract buyout's) doesn't come back to bite them on the arse.
Or what? Michigan won't give him two scoops of ice cream?
I love it "Miles BETTA Hope"
Posted on 3/17/10 at 1:28 pm to Sammich
The '97 win over UF made Di a hero. He got his team psyched that day. I seem to remember a high percentage of his recruits failing to qualify his last couple years. Also some of his game day play calls were just baffling.
Anyone think he ever read Tepper's book? If so it might have made him retarded.
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