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re: Reasons O should remain HC past Monday am

Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56693 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:29 pm to
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You need to know the answer will be yes before you ask


Not how it works. Sure, you can kick the tires, make calls and gauge interest but nobody agrees to a job until the contract details are worked out.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288759 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:32 pm to
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After all your bullshite, this actually makes some sense. That wouldn’t be the end of the world. I just think the sooner, the better to start moving toward the future.


Huh? My bullshite?

I’ve said this since last night. You’d rather just be up in your emotions then read
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33392 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:43 pm to
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Not how it works. Sure, you can kick the tires, make calls and gauge interest but nobody agrees to a job until the contract details are worked out.


Read what I wrote in context. Yes to the interview. Yes to serious interest in the job. Anyone publicly associated with it should be someone you know you at least have a good chance at getting.

My point was that you don’t want people publicly saying they don’t have interest in your job, whether you have legitimate interest in them or not.
Posted by ssburas2005
Member since Feb 2016
327 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 3:55 pm to
ya'll are the same trolls that did not want him before and after coach o won the championship. he has brand new co-ordinators at just about every position and if you want a new coach its either at dc who has no experience at dc. theres two that are good which are multiple defensive dcs with multiple schemes in dj durkin and will muschamp
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
20186 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 4:09 pm to
None
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11589 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 4:45 pm to
Zero, zilch, nada.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9233 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 5:10 pm to
How is that pure bullshite? He's going to be fired regardless it's done. I think you just might be an idiot. They're not going to wait until he's officially fired to start vetting coaches. They know who they want. They're going to be contacting agents asap. No coach is going to leave their team mid season.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9233 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 5:12 pm to
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Zero, zilch, nada

LSU is an Auburn loss away from controlling their destiny in the West. That's a pretty good reason. With the current circumstances the team isn't going to get any better by firing Orgeron. If you see the team completely quit then yes it's probably best they go ahead and fire him. But I haven't seen the team quit yet.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12058 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 5:19 pm to
If he was just losing these games, we might feel bad for not giving him the rest of the season but the way he’s acted off the field with all the distractions, he deserves to be canned right now.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7542 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 5:21 pm to
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Wants to fire him for cause and firing him immediately after a loss weakens the argument of cause.


The one and only reason.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33392 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 5:31 pm to
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LSU is an Auburn loss away from controlling their destiny in the West. That's a pretty good reason. With the current circumstances the team isn't going to get any better by firing Orgeron. If you see the team completely quit then yes it's probably best they go ahead and fire him. But I haven't seen the team quit yet.


I think you just confirmed that you are the most delusional fricker in this conversation. This is so insane that I hope you are just trolling. Controlling destiny? This team?

As for quitting, did you watch the defense in the second half?
This post was edited on 10/10/21 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17868 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 5:46 pm to
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I don't see Mickey Joseph or Steve Ensminger stepping in and magically changing the culture.




Players will play for a coach they respect, whether that is Ensminger, Joseph, Raymond, etc. A stable presence who can give them assurances regarding their future. Will that markedly improve the results? Probably not, but they have quit on O.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9233 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 6:02 pm to
I watched a defense that has been coached very poorly on run fits but I didn't see quit. I know there's a 0% chance we win out you dim-witted momo. But the team isn't going to get any better by firing O tomorrow its still the same coordinators. So what is the actual point despite it pleases your feeble mental capacity?
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33392 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 6:15 pm to
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I watched a defense that has been coached very poorly on run fits but I didn't see quit. I know there's a 0% chance we win out you dim-witted momo. But the team isn't going to get any better by firing O tomorrow its still the same coordinators. So what is the actual point despite it pleases your feeble mental capacity?




If you didn’t see quit, it’s because you are fricking blind.

There are 1,000,000 reasons to make this move before the end of the season. The sooner the better for the sake of PR, recruiting, keeping players from the portal, moving toward the future, and more. It doesn’t matter if anything on the field changes. All that matters is moving toward the future sooner rather than later. Propping up a lame duck all the way to the A&M game is the dumbest thing the administration could possibly do.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19115 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 6:23 pm to
I’ll bite Team meeting at 2pm
What did I win?
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
15832 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 6:26 pm to

You're right, LSU should wait until, say, right after the Arkansas game to fire him.

You know, for uhhh... optics and recruiting reasons. Totally.

Please keep him around longer.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9233 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:13 pm to
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If you didn’t see quit, it’s because you are fricking blind
It appears you see that because that's what you want to see when we're down three touchdowns for whatever reason because they ran the ball with the same effectiveness beginning of 2nd half that they did late in the 4th
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end of the season
Nope didnt say that
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The sooner the better for the sake of PR, recruiting, keeping players from the portal, moving toward the future, and more.
You've got a rude awakening coming. That is going to happen regardless without a head coach that we're not going to get until end of Dec-Jan. It's inevitable
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Propping up a lame duck all the way to the A&M game is the dumbest thing the administration could possibly do.

I'm not saying we should do that. After one more SEC loss then it truly doesn't matter you can go ahead and fire him. Maybe breath for a second and settle your emotions and maybe you'll find a bit of comprehension.
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All that matters is moving toward the future sooner rather than later.
That's already happening he is guaranteed to be fired...? Do you have like an irrational fear that if they don't fire him tomorrow and he's not going to be fire or something?
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:19 pm to
Because stone cold

I mean bc Scott Woodward said so!
Posted by Bruce Lee
Dallas
Member since Dec 2004
379 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:24 pm to
Disagree on the emotional argument. most LSU fans like O, but now understand he’s simply not the guy to lead the program going forward. He’s going to make a bunch of $ and leaves with a NC. Should be quick - clean - crisp break.

Also disagree on the interim argument. O is clearly checked-out and he really doesn’t bring much, if anything to the table in terms of game planning, calling plays, etc. Given that fact, I’d argue keeping O around is actually worse than one of the assistants taking over. BTW isn’t this the exact situation we’re keeping E on the payroll for?

Recruiting - tough either way, but obviously the most impactful will be the new regime and timing - asap after regular season wraps up in late Nov is best case scenario.

Money - never has and never will be a problem for LSU.

As we know this is a critical point in time for LSU. Woodward and Co must hit a home run with the next HC.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33392 posts
Posted on 10/10/21 at 8:38 pm to
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I'm not saying we should do that. After one more SEC loss then it truly doesn't matter you can go ahead and fire him. Maybe breath for a second and settle your emotions and maybe you'll find a bit of comprehension.


What the frick does waiting an extra week matter? What does emotion have to do with that? It doesn’t have to be today or tomorrow, but what’s the point of wasting time? If the admin knows it’s time to move on, then move on. The program sitting and wallowing in its own pile of shite isn’t a plan. It’s time to get up and start cleaning it off.

You haven’t given a single tangible, coherent reason to wait, so what is the point of anything you’ve said across two or three posts?
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