re: Reasons O should remain HC past Monday am

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lol this process has already started. You don't need the coach to be gone to start this. I dont think you understand how this works at all. You think they are going to wait to vet coaches until Oregeron is fired? Is that what you are saying? On another note, When do you think other coaches will actually be able to go through the interview process? Have you followed a coaching search before?

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Vet yes. You can certainly start talking to agents too, but you can only go so far down this road with a head coach still employed. If any of that leaks out while O is still employed, then it’s an even bigger shitshow. Again, this kind of shite got an entire house cleaned out at Auburn years ago. Our administration can be far more open about the process without any worries of backlash and rumors if they make the move on O well ahead of the end of the season.

I already answered your other question directly, but I’m sure you know that and are just dodging it. USC may have a hire lined up by the week after the season ends, but even if they don’t they will be doing their interviews with prime candidates then. We should be too, at least with anyone who isn’t in a conference championship game. Even if it ends up being a coach in one of those games, there’s no reason a hire can’t be announced by the following week.

A hire announced on Monday 12/6 would have exactly 8 days to shore up the early signing period. Tell me again how time and any advantage possible aren’t of the essence here. Did you not see what happened to Auburn last year when they botched firing Gus and making the next hire? Their class fricking imploded.

There is NOTHING to be gained by keeping O in place. Emotion. Logic. Recruiting. Current roster. Finding the next coach. None of it. Your arguments are all just empty word soup.

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I get your point, though and it's solid. I'm just not too concerned about him transferring before finding out who the new coach will be. This is pretty much the middle of the semester. I doubt many guys will be entering the portal until December/January, especially guys that have already played 4 games, and most will wait to see who we hire before making a big life decision. A new coach can turn it around quickly. Just look at what Huepel is doing at Tennessee.

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I get what you are saying, but it’s a cavalier attitude when we have the talent to make a turnaround already here. We just need to keep most of them. As for Huepel, let’s see them face some more real teams before crowning him just yet. All he’s proven so far is that he can score on shitty teams.

Somewhere between 11/29 (really too early, but this is day one) and 12/6 is the earliest someone could realistically be hired. That only leaves a small window to salvage the early signing period, which is when most kids get signed today. If that gets blown without a replacement in place (see Auburn fricking up their process last year) then you risk losing a guy like Nuss before a new coach is even here to talk him into staying.

My point was simple. He’s more likely to stay though whatever happens and KNOW he’s a part of the future if he’s the guy playing down the stretch.

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Dan Mullen Nov 26th Kirby Smart Dec 1st Jimbo Dec 1st Shane Beamer Dec 5th Lane Kiffin Dec 7th Bryan Harisin Dec 22nd Mike leach Jan 9th Josh Heuppel Jan 27th

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Are you serious with this list? Mullen was hired BEFORE the date I just gave. Jimbo and Smart were hired before the early signing period existed and are completely irrelevant to today because of it. Kiffin was hired the same week I just gave and had time to at least hold their class together. Beamer was also announced during the same week after championship games that I just said is when we should announce a hire.

The last three schools had fricked recruiting classes because they waited or blew it with their initial candidates. The Harsin and Heuppel hires were both shitshow processes that everyone here clowned repeatedly. Are you fricking kidding me holding them up as examples of when hires should be made today?

Look at perception presently about USC.

The are still floundering with an Interim head coach, but its not souring the discussion.

Can't imagine we'd be any worse off then them at this juncture.

Haha

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salvage the early signing period

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There's no salvaging this signing class except by hiring the new coach. Woodward can attempt damage control, but that needs to happen whether Orgeron is still here or not. That should already be happening, assuming the decision has been made to move on from Orgeron.

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He’s more likely to stay though whatever happens and KNOW he’s a part of the future if he’s the guy playing down the stretch.

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How can playing for coaches that won't even be here give him confidence he's the guy for the future?

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can be done much more freely and easily with O out of the picture.

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Lol ok. You’re wrong. But ok

Maybe, but I think they wait until the bye week at the earliest. Let’s them get everything in order for an interim

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you can’t have a bunch of guys publicly turning you down for interviews

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O is going to be long gone before guys are publicly turning Woodward down for interviews, because no interviews are going to happen until the interviewees season is over.

Also, when was the last time you saw a legitimate reporting of a guy turning down an interview?

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Also, when was the last time you saw a legitimate reporting of a guy turning down an interview?

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My point was simple- you need to know who’s legitimately interested in this job and will take it if offered before the end of the season. If you don’t, you end up chasing candidates looking for a pay raise where they are or a better offer from USC or elsewhere. You need to know the answer will be yes before you ask and that process is easier with O out of the way weeks ahead of time.

As for people “turning down interviews,” frame it differently, if you like. You see guys publicly state they have no interest in a job when they are linked to it all the time. Over and over every silly season. Sometimes thats because they are contacted for interviews and are saying no thanks in public so their fans and recruits don’t get nervous. Sometimes it just rumors they want to squash up front. Either way, it is imperative for Woodward to control the narrative there, whether he is legitimately interested in interviewing someone or not. No leaks, or if there are any, they are from you and controlled.

O is a perfect study in how NOT to do this, by the way.