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re: Realism for LSU Fans with McMahon and Program

Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:49 am to
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:49 am to
Expecting the worst is not realism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:49 am to
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There’s no top 10 talent.


Ah shite. The last 4 years of recruits were just overrated. Got it.

Wade raked in recruits. 3 top ten classes in the past 4 cycles, not counting this one.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:53 am to
The last 4 years of recruits didn’t all play together. Again this isn’t football where you can stack 3 years of 20+ signees together and recruiting rankings aren’t the same. There’s a reason a 13-14 Auburn team was ranked in the top 15 pre season despite having the 72nd class and 5 new starters while LSU was ranked in the upper 40s despite the #6 class finishing, 8 wins better and having the most SEC wins over the previous 3 seasons.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 9:55 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:55 am to
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The last 4 years of recruits didn’t all play together.



And?

Wade recruited at an elite level and had less than stellar floor success to show for it.

His teams had more talent on the floor than most teams he faced, including the SEC.

That is unless you think he was also missing on recruiting..

This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:58 am to
“Wade raked in recruits. 3 top ten classes in the past 4 cycles, not counting this one.”


Again you don’t understand basketball recruiting. Unless you have a lottery prospect all those rankings do is project to competitive talent. LSU, despite most players outperforming their recruiting rankings has had 1 first round pick under Wade. Kentucky has had 14, Bama and Tennessee have had 3-4 each, Vanderbilt has had 2 and other SEC schools have had as many or more than us. You’re projecting football onto basketball when they’re nothing alike.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:02 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:00 am to
Wrong, he greatly improved recruiting here but we hadn’t been near elite level. Next year was promising to taking that next step up but Wade ruined that chance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:00 am to
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Again you don’t understand basketball recruiting.




Just another made up excuse to get past mediocre bench coaching by the Cult of Wade.

Wade had 3 top ten classes in 4 years, chief.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:03 am to
And when’s the last freshman heavy program in all of college basketball to win a championship? 2015, before that it was 2011 so twice in the last 10+ seasons has your standard held for anyone and again those teams had multiple lottery picks on them. You don’t understand college basketball recruiting at all.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:04 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:04 am to
No, you just accepted mediocrity as success. You're in a cult.

You'll get over it and will not remember Will Wade in 3 years.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:06 am to
Ah yes the straw man attack had to come out didn’t it? That’s what happens when the facts dismantle false narratives.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21703 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:06 am to
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Madking


Its so funny, he cant refute anything you say, so you’re in a cult and wade was a mediocre coach.

Wash, rinse and repeat.
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
717 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:07 am to
The evidence was documented. You can deny verbal stuff, but not texts and account statements. Denial wouldn’t have prevented anything and likely made matters worse.
Posted by outerstater
Member since Jan 2022
889 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:10 am to
Why don't we just set back, relax, and see what happens. No need to have fits before the man has coached one minute. It's just a game for christ sakes!! Our lives don't depend on whether we win or lose. Apparently some people just don't have a life
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:11 am to
And I’m not defending what Wade did or upset he was fired, he should’ve been fired. I’m talking about LSU and what’s been done over the past 5 years. He calls it mediocrity but it was good enough to win an SEC title, finish near the top of the conference in wins (#1 before this season), get to a Sweet 16, get within a bucket from an SEC tourney title and get us to qualify for 4 straight NCAA tourneys. That hasn’t happened in 29 years here so objectively he’s just flat out wrong.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:13 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:11 am to
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he cant refute anything you say,


He's not saying anything

Hes under the belief that 3 of 4 top ten classes doesn't mean anything. He also thought the 2019 LSU football team had no shot at the NC, so no one cares what he thinks, except you of like minds.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:15 am to
So now you’re just gonna lie? I never said top 10 classes didn’t mean anything and I told you in 2018, you’re an Orgeron sycophant btw, if the offense was run through Burrow and the WRs we have a chance and after the spring game said we’d have a chance in 2019. You’re simply lying now and that’s very telling.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:21 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:21 am to
Wade underachieved based on talent.

You worship a failed coach who had one tourney win at LSU.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:23 am to
I don’t worship any coach. Only people like you who worshiped Orgeron do that. Your statements are objectively false and that’s been proven using actual data not your own personal qualifiers that don’t matchup with reality.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:24 am to
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Only people like you who worshiped Orgeron


Wanted him fired after the UCLA game. Good riddance.

Wade and Orgeron.

You just worship a failed coach.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65759 posts
Posted on 3/23/22 at 10:33 am to
And I supported Wade’s firing the difference is you’re a hypocrite still claiming a lie.
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