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re: Quit freaking out over the gameplan

Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by ViaCavour
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2012
3296 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:13 pm to
You have convinced me you are an idiot. There is a huge difference between air raid and a balanced passing attack.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34513 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:15 pm to
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The whole point is that it was Les Miles' vanilla offense and stubbornness that lead to the loss on 1/9.


There it is. Your vag is still bleeding. I get it now.

So if it was his "vanilla offense and stubbornness" that led to the loss, what was it that led to the other 13 victories? One being over the eventual champ at their house.
This post was edited on 9/2/12 at 2:19 pm
Posted by ViaCavour
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2012
3296 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:18 pm to
Sheer talent advantage, even over Alabama. Alabama won on 1/9 because of coaching and game planning.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46837 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:20 pm to
I would say Miles outcoached Saban that first game. Saban played it way too close to the vest and relied too much on 50 yard field goals.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:25 pm to
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You have convinced me you are an idiot

Dayumm now you are a psychologist.

quote:

There is a huge difference between air raid and a balanced passing attack.

Ummmk tell me what is the purpose of the event? If a team can win and have NO passes, does that somehow negate the victory?
Does having "balanced" attack one of the victory conditions?
I thought it was all just about points, but I'm an idiot, huh?

Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:26 pm to
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Sheer talent advantage, even over Alabama


Desperation.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
34513 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:28 pm to
Honest question, let's say the passing game has significantly improved (which it had to just based on what it was).

What advantage does it lend to show that in game one against NT while you are running the ball down their throats to the tune of 300+ yards?

Why show that to everybody? Do you crack aa smile when you get pocket aces too? No, you wait until everybody throws their chips in, then you drop the hammer and go home a rich man. Simple concept really.

Like I said earlier, Les' job is to win not please the fans
This post was edited on 9/2/12 at 2:50 pm
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
17049 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:29 pm to
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It's only what I do for a living, but you guys are right, you probably all know more football strategy than I do.




So this makes you right?
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:33 pm to
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You agree it was a subpar game plan, we have improved at qb, yet we still stick to the old game plan.


game plans are typically player and opponent based....3 point shooting is a horrible game plan if you don't have any decent shooters. The only weakness Bama showed on defense last year was against the option...they had 6 weeks to work on that and Les didn't adjust. I have no clue what we'll run against Bama this year.

Look, I would love to see a more potent passing attack, and I think we'll have one this year. I just am not that hung up on 8 bubble screens as indicative of anything. The downfield passing last night looked much better than it looked last year. People flipped out about the Miss State game in 07, then Va Tech was one of the best offensive games in the history of LSU football.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:35 pm to
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Like I said earlier, Les' job is to win not please the fans

Some of us fans are pleased when LSU wins.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
3584 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:36 pm to
Let it gooooooo

So far this season we are 1-0. All that matters. Maybe Mett looked off bc he got his bell rung early in the game and they did not want to chance getting him when they did not need to

Or maybe they treated this as a scrimmage and worked on things they wanted to and used backups on the o-line and things like that

They say the biggest improvement is usually between week 1 and 2.

I could careless what game plan we use as long as we win. A Win is a Win.

We need to be ready for Bama in Nov. not Sept.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:37 pm to
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Sheer talent advantage, even over Alabama.


sorry...not buying that. It was close, but Bama had advantages at QB, RB, OL and LB. LSU's only clear advantage was kickers, possibly WR, although negated somewhat by QB play.
Posted by ViaCavour
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2012
3296 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 2:54 pm to
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What advantage does it lend to show that in game one against NT while you are running the ball down their throats to the tune of 300+ yards?

Why show that to everybody? Do you crack aa smile when you get pocket aces too? No, you wait until everybody throws their chips in, then you drop the hammer and go home a rich man. Simple concept really.


I just don't buy this argument. USC, Oregon, OSU, WVU didn't throw wr screens all night, they obviously aren't afraid to show anything. Additionally, running some basic passing plays doesn't give other teams anything to work with that they havent seen from last years tapes. I just think this is an excuse we have come to use with the Les Miles offense hoping to see something new the next week.

I feel like we are arguing in circles, one side feels it was a waste of a good opportunity for Mett to build up his experience and also feels that Miles hasn't learned the need for a balanced rushing and passing attack. The other side is thrilled with the 500+yds and feels that it worked so well last year, and for the most part it worked perfectly, so let's stick with it. Both sides have valid points, we certainly can't change each other's opinions about it.

I would argue that we really only need Mett to be a game manager to get back to the championship game. Problem was, for the most part, the passing attack (plays called) last night did nothing to compliment or help out the running game like a passing attack should. There's no doubt this team can match what last year's team did, only time will tell.




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Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
5214 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 3:25 pm to
but we need Mettenberger to be a game manager and that's it.

F_ _ K off!!. Mett, another game manager..please? You are a troll. We would call plays for a game manager with even Dan Marino with you and Les Miles as anything that counts as a coach or game planner. You are too conservative and probably was a virgin till 30 the way you think.
Posted by Asllan
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2008
734 posts
Posted on 9/2/12 at 11:33 pm to
OK Les.
Posted by Geauxin off
Member since Aug 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 9/3/12 at 12:16 am to
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We took what the defense gave us

no....miles said mett needs to learn to take what
the defense gives him....to not press so much
Posted by sheek
Lake Chuck
Member since Sep 2007
44150 posts
Posted on 9/3/12 at 12:22 am to
we played above average and still managed 500 yards. I am satisfied plus we have Washington coming into town next week. why show them anything
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 9/3/12 at 12:44 am to
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Alabama won on 1/9 because of coaching and game planning.



Mainly execution. You can't solely blame the coaches if the players don't properly execute the plays.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/3/12 at 2:00 am to
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if the players don't properly execute the plays


Our O line was owned...39 yds rushing for the game.

But our coaches were owned as well. imo

Anyone thinking our talent was
noticeability better than Bama last yr or really better than Bama since 08 must be smoking some good stuff.

But none of that has anything to do with the game Saturday night. A game plan that allowed us to easily beat No Tex by amassing 500 total yds of O which put us some place we haven't been in 4+yrs...in the Top 30 for total O in the nation.



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