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boxcar willie
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questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
do you think we would have finished with a better record and had a better recruiting class with coach Fedora (for way more money, PROB 5 MIL/YR) if we would have taken him instead of hiring coach O. He and Fleck seemed next up on our board as far as realistic candidates that may have actually taken the job. Fleck was probably to young and much of a stretch at that time.
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danfraz
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
frick you are stupid


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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
what is this gibberish


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Goldrush25
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
These type of questions serve no purpose. If I were to say yes, all you would basically say is "NUH UHHHH!"

All we know is we have Orgeron and he's a career loser.


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boxcar willie
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
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uck you are stupid



not as stupid as you!


shaqtaw
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
You don’t think O was a stretch?


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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
Fedora would've been a really bad hire. Just like Orgeron was.
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He and Fleck seemed next up on our board as far as realistic candidates that may have actually taken the job.


Where is your evidence of this?

It was apparently just Herman then Orgeron according to reports.
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GeauxTigerTM
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questions for anti O's negatards?


Is this list in the binder or do you fricking clowns all get together and make them up?

Because they're stupid.


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not as stupid as you!


Way more actually.


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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
It's not just about last season, think long term man.


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boxcar willie
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
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You don’t think O was a stretch?


all that we were left with were stretchs. He was already here and already had a tryout for the job, so we knew what his floor was and a little about what we were getting.

I would have liked the Fleck hire also but he probably would have had more of a learning curve than o and the fans would have had to be more patient ( d our fans being patient) with Fleck.


GeauxTigerTM
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
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Where is your evidence of this?


He has none...he's talking completely out of his ass.

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It was apparently just Herman then Orgeron according to reports.


Correct.

Despite having what amounted to over a year to create a list and vet every potential football coach in America, we had two guys on the white board and the third was our very own DL coach and his 10-25 career coaching record.

Underneath him, there were notes like "Buy more paper for the copier" and "Who's buying lunch???"


boxcar willie
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
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Way more actually.


way way less actually.


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way way less actually.


Your post history proves that to be false many times over.


GeauxTigerTM
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
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all that we were left with were stretchs


You keep believing that fairy tale. After a year of knowing we'd be needing a coach and everything we have to offer, apparently Ed Orgeron bailed our asses out! Because there were NO OTHER OPTIONS AT ALL after the two top candidates.

None.

Anywhere.

In THE WHOLE COUNTRY!

Right...


boxcar willie
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
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t was apparently just Herman then Orgeron according to reports.

wheres your evidence of this?

After Herman and Fisher all the talk centered on unrealistic choices such as Kelly and Chris Peterson, then they had the 2nd tier like Fedora and Fleck .


Neither of us know who was really under serious consideration but these are the names that at the time on this board were being talked about as candidates


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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
Teams that made a better football HC hire than LSU since LSU hired Orgeron = every NCAA team that hired a football HC since LSU hired Orgeron.
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boxcar willie
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our post history proves that to be false many times over.


that's your opinion which proves my point.


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Freauxzen
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
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all that we were left with were stretchs.


Let's call them risks. And not all risks are the same.

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He was already here and already had a tryout for the job


So we're back to the idea that the problem was solely Les Miles...therefore, O should have had immediate success this season right?

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so we knew what his floor was and a little about what we were getting.


So his floor is only his interim stint and NOT his Ole Miss stint. Is that correct?

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I would have liked the Fleck hire also but he probably would have had more of a learning curve than o and the fans would have had to be more patient ( d our fans being patient) with Fleck.




I still don't understand how you guys look at things so broadly. Hiring Fleck would have been saying "LSU is trending downwards as a program , we need a new staff, a new vision, a new foundation for the program." So, by default, he does get more time to reshape LSU into his image, and I guarantee everyone would give him time to do that. At least 3 years.

Hiring O was saying, as you clearly said above "he was already here," "Les Miles is a problem, we are a fringe championship team, and Les is holding us back. If we remove Les, and allow someone who doesn't meddle to come in and recruit well, we can compete immediately." The thought was O's 6-2 interim stint was proof that Les was a problem, and that O could be successful right now and this wasn't a rebuild.

Hiring Fleck, Fedora, Fuente, Kelly, and hiring O are different things.
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re: questions for anti O's negatards? LSU Coach Fedora?
So many things wrong with your post. Oh my oh my.

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do you think we would have finished with a better record and had a better recruiting class with coach Fedora


Considering that Fedora is a better coach, Yes. He wouldn't have lost to Troy. Would he have a higher ranked class than O? Yes, because O's class is 15th and I would say it wouldn't be too impossible for Fedora to have a top 14th ranked class.

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(for way more money, PROB 5 MIL/YR)


Wait is this a pro O thread? Wow, this nullifies your point. You don't cheap out. You pay for successful coaches. What does this say about O?

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Fleck was probably to young and much of a stretch at that time.




Was more successful at his previous destination and as a position coach in the NFL than your boy O. frick youth. If he's good, then you wouldn't have to conduct a coaching search for 10-15 years at the minimum. Orgeron will be 57 soon.


Good try though Boxcar Ponamsky.



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