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re: Question for those of you who were clamoring for Mullen. Are you paying attention to news?

Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:50 pm to
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He was hired to re-elevate the program back to competing annually for conference and national titles.... Immediately.

Immediately? In the same division with the most successful HC in college ball?

Immediately? yeah, Sure, Right, OK. (but with a little luck, O might steal a W out of T'loosa this season)
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:01 am to
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Who's the second best coach in the SEC?
It would be the one who has recruited the second-best (or best) group of players in the SEC.

It ain't rocket science guys - It's the Jimmy's and the Joe's. Right now, with LSU's amazing 2020 class, Orgeron has a reasonable claim to the runner-up title.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:11 am to
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with a little luck, O might steal a W out of T'loosa this season


Should he not, what would your feelings about O be then? Shaken? The same?


Before you flip out and suggest I want that to happen, I do not. I'm legitimately asking.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 4:39 am to
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Should he not, what would your feelings about O be then? Shaken? The same?

Before you flip out and suggest I want that to happen, I do not. I'm legitimately asking.


Yeah, about the same. He'll need some lucky breaks to beat Bama at home - but it wouldn't surprise me. I think O is gaining fast on Saban, and Dabo has already passed him.
Posted by OPTIMAX CAT
Mississippi River Delta On Mars
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:08 am to
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Immediately? In the same division with the most successful HC in college ball?



YES and YES

The "Saban is still coaching" excuse has run its course and another loss this season would make it 4 straight. Quit leaning on this thinking that it gives you a valid reason to defend O's shortcomings.

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Immediately? yeah, Sure, Right, OK. (but with a little luck, O might steal a W out of T'loosa this season)



Surely the 2nd best coach in the conference (according to you) shouldn't lose 4 straight times to anyone, right?

An Orgeron led LSU team has been outscored by Bama 68-10 over the last 3 years. This is an indication that O isn't any closer to winning a conference title than the day he was named head coach.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14509 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:10 am to
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It ain't Mullen Kirby >. Mullen


I like Mullen. What he did at Starkville is impressive and he’s the one I wanted when Miles was sacked. I thought that Herman didn’t have enough of a resume to get into any kind of bidding war over and I’ve long thought that Jimbo is overrated.

Alleva didn’t pursue Mullen and we got Orgeron. If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with. Orgeron's made some good moves following his first season. This board’s incessant whining about him is pathetic.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30360 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:27 am to
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Orgeron has a reasonable claim to the runner-up title.

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reasonable

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Buckeye Jeaux

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:23 am to
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This board’s incessant whining about him is pathetic.


The hive mind, mob mentality. The lower level thinking of the rantards.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:46 am to
“ this boards incessant whining about him is pathetic “

You’re not suggesting this is something new and unusual towards LSU coaches, are you. Hell, there’s a lot of that going on right now towards the baseball coach and that guy owns lots of hardware and played for a national championship not too long ago.

Fans whine bout coaches and fans whine bout fans whining bout coaches. This is nothing new to the rant or to LSU football coaches.

When we beat Bama and win the west, a lot of this whining that bothers you so much will disappear.



Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:51 am to
He’s worried Poor Ol’ O’s feeling’s may get hurt. Every other coach can be subject to criticism except O.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:21 am to
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He’s worried Poor Ol’ O’s feeling’s may get hurt. Every other coach can be subject to criticism except O.
Not that at all. He's merely pointing out that you're fullashit.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:28 am to
“ every other coach can be subject to criticism except O”

LSU fans are very hard on their coaches. That’s because since bout 2000 lots of money is spent by LSU trying to give coaches every advantage and giving coaches lots of money. Right or wrong, the fans expect big dividends and there’s not much patience shown by fans.

As far as the football is concerned, a lot of our fans expected more three years after a coaching change than 3rd in the west and in a tangle of 4 teams looking far into the distance at the cloud of dust from Bama.

Coach O needs hardware. When he get it, much of this stuff will be put to rest. Until he does, well, that’s life as a LSU football coach.


Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4367 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:03 am to
An obsessed Troll!
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14509 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:06 am to
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You’re not suggesting this is something new and unusual towards LSU coaches


That doesn’t make them any less of whiny little bitches, it just makes them a large group of whiny little bitches.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60660 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:36 am to
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Coach O needs hardware.


I agree and I’ve been a skeptic that O can get us to that next level but if the standard is National Title or bust then just say it. Let’s not pretend that if we win the SEC but not the NC or the SEC W but lose in the SECCG that the most vocal critics will accept that because we saw that with Miles, to the point that some even belittle a National Championship season because we had 2 loses. I think a top 10 finish with a win in a major bowl is in the category of “hardware”. It’s the lowest level and should be accepted the ceiling but for year 2 as a full time coach it’s a step in the right direction.

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ot of our fans expected more three years after a coaching change than 3rd in the west


This is the type of disingenuous negativity that makes have a discussion about concern more difficult. Frankly using tie breakers down the line is a lazy criticism. It’s the type of stuff Buckeye Ree does to rip coaches he doesn’t like.

There s plenty of legitimate concerns there shouldn’t be a need to try and belittle what was actually a pretty good year with some positive signs for at least the 2019 season
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:54 am to
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The "Saban is still coaching" excuse has run its course and another loss this season would make it 4 straight. Quit leaning on this thinking that it gives you a valid reason to defend O's shortcomings




That would be 8 straight you dishonest hack. You are straight up despicable.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 12:00 pm to
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As far as the football is concerned, a lot of our fans expected more three years after a coaching change



What are you so-called fans basing this on? Do you have any eligibility left. Why don't some of you walk on so you can help prop up the offensive line. LSU went 10 and 3 last year without offensive tackles. Do you have any understanding of how important the left tackle is to a football team?

In the end you'll never admit that LSU was further down than anyone really knew. Well LSU is going the other way now, recruiting looks great and the team should do well this season. Most people are thrilled about it.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 12:01 pm to
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That would be 8 straight you dishonest hack. You are straight up despicable.

Even worse, Ben. 9 straight. You'd have to include the loss to Bama in the natty game - Jan 9, 2012.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29488 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:01 pm to
And yet he will win again.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:36 pm to
“ in the category of “hardware”

I don’t think anyone feels that LSU should win a national championship every season, but being competitive in our effort to win the west is a different story and finishing two or more games out every year since 2012 leads to a lot of frustration. LSU pours a lot of capital into their football program and I don’t think it’s unjustified to expect a West title every now and then from any football coach we might have hired.

Hey, I’m not going to apologize for wanting a West title or believing that based on the wealth of the football program and the recruiting advantage we have in this area we should be doing better than 5-3.
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