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Question for the Miles supporters
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:19 pm
Why do you think some people don't support him? If he's a perfectly good coach, what problem do the "haters" have with him?
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:20 pm to blueboy
He's not Nick Saban.
I thought this was common knowledge.
I thought this was common knowledge.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:21 pm to blueboy
Their problem with him? Yankee.
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:21 pm to chilge1
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He's not Nick Saban.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:23 pm to blueboy
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Why do you think some people don't support him? If he's a perfectly good coach, what problem do the "haters" have with him?
1. He's not Nick Saban.
2. Fear that their "Texas" (Insert other School Name Here) will have a leg up in the water cooler argument.
3. They legitimately feel he's not a good coach.
I'm sure there are others, some might have some merit, most don't. IMHO
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:49 pm to SouthernMan
Results given the Talent.
Other coaches doing more with less.
Time clock management and the "deer in the headlights" look on the sidelines at times.
Think he wants to be CEO type vs. a hands on type like Saban. To be CEO type he will be judged by results on the field like any other business IMO and they have been lacking given the talent. CEO's not allowed to make excuses for not having results ie. OC or Quarterback play. If the OC and Quarterback play is good the last two years we have less losses and he's not on the "hotseat". CEO gets the blame if he doesn't figure things out quicker and make the right personell moves. Each week last season he said he would fix things and each week the same to me and so far this year. Think he needs to make a move at one of those two positions and hope its not too late and it results in prettier WINS. As a CEO he has been great on recruiting and Defense is good but he will get judged on total package.
Other coaches doing more with less.
Time clock management and the "deer in the headlights" look on the sidelines at times.
Think he wants to be CEO type vs. a hands on type like Saban. To be CEO type he will be judged by results on the field like any other business IMO and they have been lacking given the talent. CEO's not allowed to make excuses for not having results ie. OC or Quarterback play. If the OC and Quarterback play is good the last two years we have less losses and he's not on the "hotseat". CEO gets the blame if he doesn't figure things out quicker and make the right personell moves. Each week last season he said he would fix things and each week the same to me and so far this year. Think he needs to make a move at one of those two positions and hope its not too late and it results in prettier WINS. As a CEO he has been great on recruiting and Defense is good but he will get judged on total package.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:54 pm to macdatiger
Has he really been that great recruiting? Our O-line hasn't been too good. Sure we have great talent at the skill positions, but you can't do anything without a line.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 8:56 pm to Brinner
Attrition on the O-Line has been the single-greatest issue with the team in the past several years. We finally seem to have overcome this and now have great depth.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:01 pm to chilge1
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We finally seem to have overcome this and now have great depth.
This is not entirely true. The jury is still out.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:04 pm to chilge1
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He's not Nick Saban.
Actually, the most common answer I expected was "because some fans think we should win championships every year," which, trust me, ain't the case.
And neither is this. The desire for Saban's return is a reaction to Miles' coaching ability, not the cause of it.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:06 pm to blueboy
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The desire for Saban's return is a reaction to Miles' coaching ability, not the cause of it.
The desire for Saban's return is a reaction to the success of the teams Miles has fielded in the last two years relative to that of Saban's. Nobody missed Saban from 2005-2007, you'll notice.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:16 pm to SouthernMan
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3. They legitimately feel he's not a good coach.
Why? What are their reasons for believing this?
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:32 pm to blueboy
1) he's not nick saban
2) they used to complain about saban too
there are legitimate reasons to complain about Miles but most of it is whiny bullshite
2) they used to complain about saban too
there are legitimate reasons to complain about Miles but most of it is whiny bullshite
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:34 pm to molsusports
another reason is people hate it that LSU isn't the main team in the sec west anymore.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:38 pm to blueboy
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what problem do the "haters" have with him?
The same problem the fans had with Mainieri--didn't win soon enough without enough pitching talent.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:44 pm to blueboy
Speaking for myself, I've unimpressed since not long after he got here.
And before someone says, "but he won a MNC", so did Larry Coker.
Now the UT @ San Antonio HC. Hot commodity there I tell ya.
And before someone says, "but he won a MNC", so did Larry Coker.
Now the UT @ San Antonio HC. Hot commodity there I tell ya.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:46 pm to ShortyRob
Larry Coker also never won as many games as he had the previous season. Miles has failed to do so exactly once.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:48 pm to 1p56
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Their problem with him? Yankee.
can't be that. It took 2 yankees to give us 2 NC's this decade.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:52 pm to blueboy
In the case of some, Nick Saban is the only LSU HC they can remember other than CLM. They haven't see a losing season at LSU- and are fearful it could happen.
Of course- one day it will. Nobody is immune from that. Ask around.
A kid who's 20 now was 9 when NS was hired here. No offense- but that's not much history to work with. But that's not their fault. Better to have known only a winner than the other way around.
For others, young & old, I believe that yes- once they tasted BCS success, they wanted and expected it every year. It'll be no different at Bama after they stumble- which they surely will.
Of course- one day it will. Nobody is immune from that. Ask around.
A kid who's 20 now was 9 when NS was hired here. No offense- but that's not much history to work with. But that's not their fault. Better to have known only a winner than the other way around.
For others, young & old, I believe that yes- once they tasted BCS success, they wanted and expected it every year. It'll be no different at Bama after they stumble- which they surely will.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 9:54 pm to blueboy
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3. They legitimately feel he's not a good coach.
Why? What are their reasons for believing this?
Notice I said "the feel" this way, not that they are this way.
I think Miles is a great coach and I don't want him gone by any stretch.
I was answering the OP's silly question, which seems to have implied that there must be something to the concerns because people couldn't just 'hate' could they?
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