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re: Question for the Lee supporters
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:34 pm to big70
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:34 pm to big70
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Yeah that pick six was improving
Man, did you even watch that play or the rest of the game? Lee will get the blame on the stat sheet for that crap, but it went right through Randle's hands. Yes, it was about head high, but he should have caught it. Great play by Loston to catch a ball he probably didn't think was going to get to him.
As for the rest of the game, Lee was far more decisive in what he wanted to do and where to go with the football. Hell, he even completed a pass more than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. That's where JJ bothers me most. He's just not very accurate downfield.
I'm not saying Lee should be the starter, but I am sure as hell not going to count him out simply because he had a tough go of it as a RS freshman two seasons ago and wasn't given much of a chance to redeem himself last year. It does look to me like he has EARNED a shot at PT, though.
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Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:38 pm to big70
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I said the kid can sling it. Thats always been the case. The checking down maybe, maybe not-also Gonzo tried to simplify everything to one read so I think your the one who wasnt watching. I said he could throw the ball but he made the one big mistake-this is the exact same thing as 2008. It depends on what you want in a QB and how much you believe in your defense.
I understand what you are saying, but in my opinion, Lee gives us a better chance to win in the long run. He will probably always be prone to mistakes, but so is brett favre. (No I am not comparing Lee to brett favre). Lee looks like he can continue to get better. By seasons end, who knows. With Jefferson it seems like what you see is what you will always get.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:38 pm to big70
Lee's interception Sat. was the exact same play as the one Porter picked for the Saints. If you watched the game- it is the receiver's job to use their body as a screen against the safety. When he comes to a complete stop he doesn't screen the safety... pick 6. Porter's was due to the receiver & so was Lee's. Watch the game again.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:39 pm to TIsuGGER
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how good could Lee be if he was getting meaningful game experience?
Miles actions in this regard speaks volumes for me. It says Miles views JJ as a weak QB prospect. And not to put undue pressure on JJ, Miles will not allow JLee (nor RS or CG, FWIW) to gain any advantage by playing any. JLee should have gotten some garbage reps in the Chick Bowl, and RS should have thrown a pass or two. But Miles would have none of that.
So my point is, by his own actions, Miles shows little confidence in JJs ability to be a conference winning QB for LSU.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:40 pm to big70
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he made the one big mistake-this is the exact same thing as 2008
After watching the replay, Does everyone believe that Loston made a legit play on the ball? I believe he knew the play and jumped the route.
:beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:
Lee is looking to the other side of the field, so Loston wasn't reading his eyes or body language.
Great play by Loston, but he knew it was coming. Just like the Superbowl for Manning/Wayne. It is easy to defend a play you have seen over and over on film (Saints) or in practice- (Loston)
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:40 pm to big70
Lee's interception Sat. was the exact same play as the one Porter picked for the Saints. If you watched the game- it is the receiver's job to use their body as a screen against the safety. When he comes to a complete stop he doesn't screen the safety... pick 6. Porter's was due to the receiver & so was Lee's. Watch the game again.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:43 pm to big70
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The checking down maybe, maybe not-also Gonzo tried to simplify everything to one read so I think your the one who wasnt watching
Watched some the game yesterday. Several times Lee made multiple reads before passing. Fowler even commented on it.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:44 pm to HONDEAUX
I'm not a Lee supporter but I'm pretty sure this JJ thing is never going to workout. We limit our offense because of him.
We have skill players as good as any I've ever seen at LSU, just a human that can get them the ball would be nice. I really don't need much, just anything other than JJ. Seriously, anything.
We have skill players as good as any I've ever seen at LSU, just a human that can get them the ball would be nice. I really don't need much, just anything other than JJ. Seriously, anything.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:44 pm to BayouBndt
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Because Lee looks like he is actually improving.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:45 pm to RobbBobb
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So my point is, by his own actions, Miles shows little confidence in JJs ability to be a conference winning QB for LSU.
So Miles has so little confidence in his starting QB that he doesn't give reps/PT to the backups b/c he fears the backups will overtake the starter?
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on here.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:46 pm to Tiger55
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did the defense creep up knowing what the play was
I think Loston read that play like a book.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:48 pm to geraldthemouse
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I think Loston read that play like a book.
You think wrong.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:49 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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a human that can get them the ball
That about sums it up.
When I saw the pass to RShep, I thought is was a 35 yard completion not 10. JJ had dropped ten yards in the shotgun.
I could not play for LSU's Football Team, so I have immense respect for the athletic ability of everyone that did/does. But after three years- I am ready to see some improvement on form, timing, accuracy, pocket awareness, audibles...anything.
Coaches? Players? JJ and JLee were legit college prospects if I remember correctly? So, what gives?
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:50 pm to amiznit
I wouldn't say that getting benched the last year is a pass for poor play.
But Lee has handled the situation and shown toughness and character and some improvement.
JJ just seems to continue to do the same things and show no improvement. There is also no question that Lee has a stronger and more accurate arm that Jefferson.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:52 pm to darkdaysof dinardo
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Lee's interception Sat. was the exact same play as the one Porter picked for the Saints. If you watched the game- it is the receiver's job to use their body as a screen against the safety. When he comes to a complete stop he doesn't screen the safety... pick 6. Porter's was due to the receiver & so was Lee's. Watch the game again.
Not exact same plays. Lee's was a tunnel screen to Randle whereas Porter's pick was just on a typical quick slant. They're similar but not the same. The pick 6 was basically a combination of four things:
1. Missed block by OL in space
2. Loston being a stud and getting a great jump on the ball
3. Not the best effort by Randle to catch or knock the ball down
4. Overthrown pass by Lee
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:56 pm to ItTakesAThief
The one play which Lee made as a RSFR which tells me he has the ability to be a successful SEC QB was the perfect TD pass to Chris Mitchell vs Auburn right before he was drilled.
JJ can't make accurate throws downfield with no one around him.
JJ can't make accurate throws downfield with no one around him.
This post was edited on 3/30/10 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:56 pm to ItTakesAThief
if the ball hits the recievers hands he should catch it that is his job even if it is poorly thrown if it goes thru his hands I put it squarely on him so for the love of god get off of him over the pick 6
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:58 pm to FootballNostradamus
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The pick 6 was basically a combination of four things:
It wouldn't matter to the Lee haters if Randle caught it and tipped it into Loston's hands. . . They'd still rant on Lee about what a pick-6 joker he is. Kid's snakebit, but he looks like the best we've got right now.
I like both guys - JJ and JL. Just hope everyone keeps and open mind and supports whoever's behind our center.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 12:59 pm to darkdaysof dinardo
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Lee's interception Sat. was the exact same play as the one Porter picked for the Saints. If you watched the game- it is the receiver's job to use their body as a screen against the safety. When he comes to a complete stop he doesn't screen the safety... pick 6. Porter's was due to the receiver & so was Lee's. Watch the game again.
It wasn't the same play. Loston didn't jump in front of RR, he was behind him and caught the pass that went through his hands. JL could have placed the ball a lot better but RR should have caught it.
Posted on 3/30/10 at 1:01 pm to NimbleCat
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I could not play for LSU's Football Team, so I have immense respect for the athletic ability of everyone that did/does. But after three years- I am ready to see some improvement on form, timing, accuracy, pocket awareness, audibles...anything.
Coaches? Players? JJ and JLee were legit college prospects if I remember correctly? So, what gives?
My questions as well. Both QB's appear to have talent. Both QB's appear to be regressing.
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