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Question for the lawyers regarding Princewill
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:38 am
Assuming this would actually go to court (I know it likely doesn’t), does the perception of pettiness and/or gamesmanship work against the plaintiff’s case?
As in, your making a case for financial wrongdoing, but wait 8 months and then happen to serve papers the week of the game. This would rub me the wrong way if I was a judge.
As in, your making a case for financial wrongdoing, but wait 8 months and then happen to serve papers the week of the game. This would rub me the wrong way if I was a judge.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:52 am to tomcatrav
this is one of those situations where "anybody can sue anyone for anything" comes into play
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:54 am to tomcatrav
It’s probably going to be the same judge that granted chambliss a 6th year, so I don’t think that will matter.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 12:10 pm to tomcatrav
Arguably could be seen as a abuse of process if they can prove malicious intent.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 12:13 pm to tomcatrav
Not a lawyer but as long as it is within the statute of limitations I don’t think a judge would care about the timing. They don’t rule off vibes and feelings.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 12:25 pm to Pax Regis
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They don’t rule off vibes and feelings.
Form of service matters, particularly when it is used for a collateral purpose (like intimidation or harassment). It's not an easy claim to prove and depends whether they attempted service at his home or other less-intrusive means.
It doesn't demean the success of the service, but serving papers at someone's job, for example, in an attempt to bully them or harm their reputation is actionable.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 12:48 pm to Pax Regis
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Not a lawyer but
“I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night”…
Posted on 9/16/26 at 12:54 pm to tomcatrav
While the timing of service may, probably is gamesmanship, I don't think it has any effect, at all, on what seems to be a breach of contract case. Whether or not a contract was breached generally comes down to the language of the contract and the actions that may or may not be considered a breach.
I suspect the lawsuit is filed in Mississippi where the contract was entered into, which is likely Lafayette Country (where Oxford is located). So even if there was a remote chance the timing of service may matter to a judge, I doubt it would matter to a Lafayette County judge.
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This would rub me the wrong way if I was a judge.
I suspect the lawsuit is filed in Mississippi where the contract was entered into, which is likely Lafayette Country (where Oxford is located). So even if there was a remote chance the timing of service may matter to a judge, I doubt it would matter to a Lafayette County judge.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 1:11 pm to tomcatrav
I have been practicing for 22 years. I do not do contract law. From what I understand, neither Princewell nor Harper received any money. In a contract case, again just from my 2 law school contracts classes from my 1L year, plaintiffs (Ole Piss) have a duty to mitigate their damages. Basically, Ole Piss had to make reasonable efforts to avoid their financial losses. I think they clearly did that by signing other players to replace these two. It can be argued they have suffered zero financial loss or very little. As for waiting 8 months to file, unless Miss is different than most states, the SOL will be 2 or 3 years. Timing wise, I mean as long as the case itself is valid, I doubt a Mississippi judge will give Ole Piss a hard time. But if there is something in that contract that absolved our two guys of any liability, that could be definitely be a problem for Ole Piss.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 1:13 pm to tomcatrav
To me it seems petty they served him instead of his attorney of record.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 1:29 pm to tomcatrav
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does the perception of pettiness and/or gamesmanship work against the plaintiff’s case?
Contract law is generally objective, i.e., you look to the terms of the contract. A breach is a breach, and the subjective motivation of the plaintiff—even if spiteful or petty—does not automatically invalidate a legally binding agreement. However, in the real-world arena of civil litigation, blatant gamesmanship can absolutely work against a plaintiff.
If Ole Miss behaves in a highly punitive, theatrical manner—like intentionally timing the service of process to maximize a player's emotional distress or distraction right before a major rivalry game, which the folks in Oxfart did—it plays directly into the defense's hands. Defense counsel can point to this behavior as evidence that the university's overarching intent, including the buyout clause itself, is purely punitive.
Contracts carry an implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing. While filing a lawsuit to enforce a contract is not inherently bad faith, utilizing aggressive, hyper-public tactics to execute the litigation can blur the lines. It allows the defense to frame the plaintiff as an untrustworthy, vindictive actor rather than an aggrieved business partner
Just looking at the mechanics of this lawsuit, it’s a standard civil breach of contract claim, but with a massive SEC revenue-sharing twist.
For Ole Miss to actually win this, they have to prove three basic things: (1) the January 3rd contract was valid, (2) Umanmielen broke the 90-day retention clause by jumping to Baton Rouge in late January, and (3) that OM actually suffered $550k in damages.
But here are the two giant legal hurdles they have to clese:
(1) Did they even pay him?
If OM didn't actually hand over any cash before he entered the portal, they are going to have a brutal time proving they suffered half a million in actual harm. You can't usually enforce a massive buyout if no money actually changed hands.
(2) Is it just a penalty?
Courts routinely strike down "liquidated damages" if they figure out it's just an arbitrary penalty designed to trap a player on the roster rather than replace actual financial loss.
The bottom line: This isn't really about squeezing $550k out of a college kid's pocket. We already told OM to kick rocks back in March when they asked us to pay the buyout. This litigation looks like a backdoor maneuver to force that $550k onto our own revenue-sharing cap.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 1:35 pm to El Jefe de Tu Mama
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I have been practicing for 22 years. I do not do contract law. From what I understand, neither Princewell nor Harper received any money. In a contract case, again just from my 2 law school contracts classes from my 1L year, plaintiffs (Ole Piss) have a duty to mitigate their damages. Basically, Ole Piss had to make reasonable efforts to avoid their financial losses. I think they clearly did that by signing other players to replace these two.
The contract could have very well had some stipulated or liquidated damages clauses for early termination. That's not uncommon at all.
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To me it seems petty they served him instead of his attorney of record.
I don't practice law in MS, but often times an initial pleading, such as a complaint, has to be served on the defendant himself (unless the party has a separate registered agent for service of process). Now, a party can, generally though his attorney, waive formal service of process and have his attorney accept service. In federal court it is standard to send out a request for waiver of formal service. The defendant doesn't have to waive, but there benefits for the defendant to waive and penalties for then not waiving.
Considering it appears discussions about the issue have been going on for months, I would be willing to bet Princewill had retained counsel. If so, it's possible he was asked to waive formal service and did not. Of course, the opposite could be true and that the plaintiff did not request waiver and served process at a very calculated time.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 2:15 pm to tomcatrav
I feel this entire lawsuit is just to go through discovery to try and say lane tampered by contacting the players
Posted on 9/16/26 at 3:11 pm to Alt26
You’ve given a good summary and after glancing at the docket it looks like you guessed correctly. The suit was filed in July and when no waiver of process was filed by late August, formal summons was issued about two weeks ago. Those are normally sent to a local sheriff to be served on the defendant because it’s cheaper than hiring a private process server. Sheriffs serve process on their own schedule but are supposed to do so without undue delay.
I didn’t see any entrance of appearance by defense counsel on the docket. The plaintiff attorney is competent but I’ve always thought of him as a total douche.
To answer someone else’s question, this is not the same court or judge as in the Chambliss case. The Judge is a good guy. MSU undergrad and OM Law School. Was a prosecutor for 20 years before being elected Circuit Judge about 10 years ago.
If PW intends to fight the suit, he has the option of removing it to federal court assuming he acts within 30 days after he received the suit.
I didn’t see any entrance of appearance by defense counsel on the docket. The plaintiff attorney is competent but I’ve always thought of him as a total douche.
To answer someone else’s question, this is not the same court or judge as in the Chambliss case. The Judge is a good guy. MSU undergrad and OM Law School. Was a prosecutor for 20 years before being elected Circuit Judge about 10 years ago.
If PW intends to fight the suit, he has the option of removing it to federal court assuming he acts within 30 days after he received the suit.
Posted on 9/16/26 at 3:25 pm to Pax Regis
Been ruling that way against Trump for10 frickin yes
Posted on 9/16/26 at 3:52 pm to tomcatrav
Too bad Ole Miss didn’t steal any of our top players, then we could sue them in retaliation!
Posted on 9/16/26 at 3:55 pm to Alt26
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The contract could have very well had some stipulated or liquidated damages clauses for early termination.
I think it did provide liquidated damages and attorneys fees as well

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