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Question concering Monds knee down?

Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:49 am
Posted by johnboyjax
Jacksonville
Member since Sep 2009
615 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:49 am
After the interception by Delpit, I turned TV off thinking we won. A few minutes later after seeing the rant I turned it back on. What was the ruling on the field, explanation about Monds knee being down? Did they not see he was not in possession of the ball when his knee was down?
Posted by FWBTigah
Member since Oct 2017
934 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:50 am to
Touching the ball while knee down...play over
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:51 am to
Mond is poo poo
This post was edited on 11/25/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:51 am to
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Did they not see he was not in possession of the ball when his knee was down?



You don't have to possess the ball.
Posted by Heisenberg Aint Dead
Walker
Member since Sep 2015
1568 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:52 am to
They got a 10 second run off but if it was stopped when it happened a lot more time would have come off the clock and probably the next few plays don’t happen. It’s amazing how many breaks that cult got last night.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22344 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:56 am to
That’s just simply not true. He never had possession. It was a mishandled snap.

A live ball

How many fumbles have you seen blown dead once a player on the ground touches it?

He picked the ball up as his knee was going up. The ball was even moving as he grabbed it. When he has possession of the ball, there is space between his knee and the ground

The announcers and review officials see what they want to see.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22344 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:02 am to
You do have to possess the ball. Had he took a clean snap and slipped with ball and knee touching the ground, then you’re right.

He NEVER had possession. It is a live ball.

Can you imagine how many fumbles in the history of football have been called wrong if a player on the ground only has to touch the football for it to be dead?

You guys really enjoy having objects forced up ur arse, then apologize for it. LOL
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101468 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:04 am to
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You don't need to have possession like catching a pass. If you're pressing the ball against the ground even with one hand while your knee is down, it's done. That's what I'm hearing anyway...




I’ve never seen that rule applied before. So an LSU player couldn’t have picked up the ball at that point? All a player has to do is touch a flailing ball on the ground with his knee down and play is dead? So pretty much all fumble scrums for the ball are now pointless?

Every explanation I’ve seen here defies logic and everything else I know about football.
This post was edited on 11/25/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:09 am to
Actually his knee appeared to be down but it was not
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:14 am to
Who turn TV off that quickly? Trying to save electricity or something. it's like your hand had to be on the power button as delpit intercepted the ball
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22344 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:15 am to
Correct

There was space between his knee and the ground at all times, and if there even was some contact with a blade of grass and his knee pad and pants, it didn’t happen when he had possession
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57704 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:19 am to
I’ve never heard of it being a dead ball as soon as he touched the ball with his knee down. If that’s the case, then every single fumble should be a dead ball as soon as the fumbling player touches it with a knee down.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:23 am to
quote:

I’ve never seen that rule applied before. So an LSU player couldn’t have picked up the ball at that point? All a player has to do is touch a flailing ball on the ground with his knee down and play is dead? So pretty much all fumble scrums for the ball are now pointless?

Every explanation I’ve seen here defies logic and everything else I know about football.


You're not applying the logic correctly. Since he was the one who ultimately controlled the ball, touching it while the knee was down means he was down. If an LSU player moved in and picked it up, he wouldn't have been down.

The play isn't over when he touches it, it's over when he gains possession, but once he gains possession, he's already down because of the knee.
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1392 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:27 am to
He knew wasn't on the ground when he gained possession.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:28 am to
quote:

He knew wasn't on the ground when he gained possession


I know, but his knee was on the ground when he touched the ball, and he gaine possession shortly thereafter.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7192 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:31 am to
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Touching the ball while knee down...play over





It wasn't called on the field and there wasn't overwhelming evidence his knee touched. I just watch a slow mo and it looked like his knee did not touch. It was game over on the spike anyway because aTm had only 5 men on the line. 2 short.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:33 am to
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Touching the ball while knee down...play over


What happened after? Did the clock run or did A&M have a time out and used it? Otherwise they couldn't stop the clock except for an incomplete pass. The refs either didn't see the eligible formation or just didn't want to call it. That would seem to have been a penalty on A&M and I think there was supposed to be a 10 second run off and end the game.
Posted by LouisianaJoseph
Denver
Member since Apr 2018
1392 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:35 am to
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I know, but his knee was on the ground when he touched the ball, and he gaine possession shortly thereafter.

So that's a live ball in every other game.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:49 am to
quote:

So that's a live ball in every other game.



It's not. You can argue whether his knee ever really touched, but if he touches the ground while in the process of regaining possession, he's down.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 10:54 am to
simply touching a fumbled ball when you are down does NOT end the play. Look at the case of multiple fumbles as the ball slides out from under players and under different players.

Mond fumbled the ball and just touching it while down is NOT the rule. By the time he picked it up he was on his feet and not down.
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