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re: Question about Austin Nola?
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:26 pm to LSUcc
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:26 pm to LSUcc
Nola's batting average stats are basically against just sec pitching, he didn't have the luxury of getting all those AB's against the cupcakes like Landry did when he hit all those HRs. He also puts the ball in play a lot more than Landry.
That being said i haven't given up on Leon, I still think he's going to be important this year or next.
That being said i haven't given up on Leon, I still think he's going to be important this year or next.
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Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:31 pm to LSUcc
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And yes, I've seen Leon try to make those diving catches and miss, but I've yet to see that kind of body sacrifice from Mahtoo
irrelevant when Leon dives when he doesnt have too
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:36 pm to Lester Earl
Kind of like how blake dean tore up his average against those cupcakes 
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:44 pm to Beaux
Being in a hitting slump and not being a good hitter to begin with are two different things. Leon was avg at the plate last year and has been even worse this year.
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:53 pm to Beaux
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Kind of like how blake dean tore up his average against those cupcakes
huh?
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:55 pm to Beaux
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Kind of like how blake dean tore up his average against those cupcakes
Dean has caught fire since SEC play started. WTF are u talking about
Posted on 5/4/09 at 4:56 pm to Beaux
I'm still waiting on LSU08's thoughts on this subject
Posted on 5/4/09 at 5:03 pm to Lester Earl
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Kind of like how blake dean tore up his average against those cupcakes
Dean has caught fire since SEC play started. WTF are u talking about
I figured he was joking.
Posted on 5/4/09 at 5:45 pm to Beaux
He strikes-out way too much! Jared Mitchell will be getting the same rap if he continues to strike-out as much. Only an opinion.The post was referring to Leon Landry.
This post was edited on 5/4/09 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:16 pm to Beaux
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This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:26 pm to msutiger
Also all of you complaining about Leon striking out, Nola is striking out just as much as Landry.
They both strike out 26% of the time.
For those of you saying Leon never walks, just strikes out
Leon walks 14% of the time
Nola 15%
so they are basically even in these two.
Difference is
Landry- .258 9 HR's
Nola- .239 1 HR
They both strike out 26% of the time.
For those of you saying Leon never walks, just strikes out
Leon walks 14% of the time
Nola 15%
so they are basically even in these two.
Difference is
Landry- .258 9 HR's
Nola- .239 1 HR
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:41 pm to LSUcc
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i didn't make that assumption at all, but it's annoying when people try to act like they know everything which is why I try to stay off this thing. There is no way that Mahtook's speed is that much better than Leon's. And yes, I've seen Leon try to make those diving catches and miss, but I've yet to see that kind of body sacrifice from Mahtook, that is all.
Mahtook is widely considered to be just as fast if not faster than Leon while judging the ball better off the bat. Leon's "quickness" is overrated since he sometimes takes a second to judge where the ball is going
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:44 pm to msutiger
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Difference is
Landry- .258 9 HR's
Nola- .239 1 HR
how many home runs does Leon have against SEC pitching?
also, we turn more double plays with Nola, regardless of whether or not you think Schimpf is better
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:49 pm to TigerBait1127
not that many more
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:50 pm to msutiger
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LeMahieu is a good SS and makes most of the plays, that Nola does. Also Shimpf is a better second basemen than LeMahieu
You cant say that the middle infield play hasn't improved since the switch. Probably have 7 or 8 DPs since the change compare to like 15 or so the whole time before (dont remember the exact #s).
Also, nothing against Schimpf, but DJ is excellent at 2nd base. His arm's range doesnt match his fielding range at short. At second he can make much more plays
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:51 pm to lsumma09
so you sacrafice an out most of the time, just so you you can turn maybe one more double play every 2 or 3 games.
This post was edited on 5/4/09 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:53 pm to lsumma09
quote:yes it has
You cant say that the middle infield play hasn't improved since the switch
but the offense has gotten worse. you take someone hitting .258 with 9 HR's and put in someone hitting .239 with 1 HR
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:54 pm to msutiger
There is more to hitting than BA. Unfortunately for Nola. He has a 352 OBP and a 326 SLG. He has absolutely no power and is pulling the very difficult trick of a higher OBP than SLG.
I also don't believe he's a dramatic defensive upgrade. Nola will be a good player, but he is overwhelmed right now. Yes, he's putting up bad stats against the SEC... exactly the point. We need guys to win the postseason.
By moving Schimpf to the OF, we shrink the outfield lineup slots right as Chad Jones returned to the team. We could keep the old LeMaheiu-Schimpf MI with a Mitchell/Dean/Mahtook OF rotating Jones, Landry, McGhee, Haydel, or Helenihi in the DH slot and lose nothing defensively really and gain offensively.
I also don't believe he's a dramatic defensive upgrade. Nola will be a good player, but he is overwhelmed right now. Yes, he's putting up bad stats against the SEC... exactly the point. We need guys to win the postseason.
By moving Schimpf to the OF, we shrink the outfield lineup slots right as Chad Jones returned to the team. We could keep the old LeMaheiu-Schimpf MI with a Mitchell/Dean/Mahtook OF rotating Jones, Landry, McGhee, Haydel, or Helenihi in the DH slot and lose nothing defensively really and gain offensively.
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:57 pm to msutiger
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but the offense has gotten worse. you take someone hitting .258 with 9 HR's and put in someone hitting .239 with 1 HR
wat are they hitting in the SEC? I don't think we are sacrificing offense but not having Landry in there. At least Nola works the count a bit
Posted on 5/4/09 at 6:59 pm to msutiger
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so you sacrafice an out most of the time
.259 to .239 is a 7.7% difference. If you're basing your argument on average thats about 1 extra hit in fifteen at bats.
Im not completely against switching back if Leon gets hot but dont fix whats not broken. I think we're 8-1 since the change
This post was edited on 5/4/09 at 7:01 pm
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