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Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:09 pm to justustm2
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LOL! You guys are special.
So are you, sweetheart!
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:12 pm to tonydtigr
Max Johnson should be QB1 over Finley/Brennan
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:12 pm to memphis tiger
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So you think TJ lost the starting spot because of race and not his performance after that first start you seem so infatuated with?
This is not about who started or whether race influenced it. PJ started 3 games based his winning the competition during practice. However, some here claimed it was based on race because of BLM. I didn't. I agreed that Johnson should have started the game at Florida. A pecking order of QBs needs to be determined and this year was already basically lost. Johnson needed his opportunity.
How you come up with me being infatuated with TJ's first start, I'm not certain. IO simply put up the stats for each QBs first start. At this point, the only point of comparison for the all three QBs would be their first starts since Johnson has only started one game. It seems everyone was infatuated with Johnson's start, so why shouldn't anyone have been infatuated with Finley's start if, in fact, I was?
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:16 pm to memphis tiger
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Why don’t you compare subsequent game stats? Or does that just completely torpedo the stupid point you seem to be trying to make.
OK, lets compare Johnson's subsequent game stats genius. Is it stupid because you can't comprehend or because you disagree at what the stats show? There is a lot of stupid in these discussions but it is not the stats I posted.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:19 pm to LUS Tiger in FL
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Max Johnson should be QB1 over Finley/Brennan
We shall see. That has not been determined.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:21 pm to justustm2
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It seems everyone was infatuated with Johnson's start, so why shouldn't anyone have been infatuated with Finley's start if, in fact, I was?
You have a very short memory. Everyone was infatuated with Finley's start. They were carrying on about him saying that he could be the "real deal".
His next game was less than stellar, though.
That's when Max got his shot at it. If Max gets the next start and craps the bed, fans will swing back Finley's way.
It's a fluid situation. It's insulting to think that things are always about race. But that's exactly how you want to roll.
Yours must truly be a miserable existence to see "race" everywhere you look.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:23 pm to justustm2
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I am not arguing that either of the QBs should be the starter. As for you being not sure what my point is, have you not noticed the different treatment TJ has received on here? It started even when he was a recruit.
You are full of shite
After the SC game this place was in love with him. Even to the point that some were hoping Brennan would leave and TJ would be e starter.
Then TJ had a couple really awful games and the fans turned on him.
That has nothing to do with race. If Max looks bad against Ole Miss, this board will turn on him just as fast.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:25 pm to justustm2
Not accounting for the fact that Marshall and Gilbert weren’t even on the team for Johnson. Point is, this isn’t black and white man, this is way more complex than just stats. Idk how you could watch all the games and argue that Finley is the best.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:27 pm to justustm2
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It seems everyone was infatuated with Johnson's start, so why shouldn't anyone have been infatuated with Finley's start if, in fact, I was?
You are either stupid or flat out lying.
Almost no one was not infatuated after TJs first start. You seem to focus on that and not the subsequent starts.
He looked incredible agains SC, then looked really bad against a very average AU team, Bama and aTm.
Even you should be able to be objective and admit that we would have beaten aTm had he played better.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:28 pm to justustm2
the most interesting thing on the chart is how comparable Miss. State and Florida's defenses were this season.
TYPG- 384.9 & 384.9
PPG- 27.9 & 26.3
CMP%- 62.8% & 62.7%
TYPG- 384.9 & 384.9
PPG- 27.9 & 26.3
CMP%- 62.8% & 62.7%
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:28 pm to justustm2
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OK, lets compare Johnson's subsequent game stats genius. Is it stupid because you can't comprehend or because you disagree at what the stats show? There is a lot of stupid in these discussions but it is not the stats I posted.
Again you focus on one game and ignore bad play thereafter.
Yes I’m aware that Max has only one start. But you put Brennan’s stats up there too and he had more than one start and didn’t go completely to shite after the first one.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:41 pm to tonydtigr
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You have a very short memory. Everyone was infatuated with Finley's start. They were carrying on about him saying that he could be the "real deal".
This doesn't fit his everybody is a racist argument though, so it's ignored.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 12/16/20 at 2:56 pm to justustm2
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Yes I probably am that guy. And I do have an agenda. And it is anti-racism. And that agenda only angers racists. So be it. And I have support for ALL of the LSU players, white or black.
See people like you have a misguided view of your contributions to ending racism. You used selective bias in choosing stats trying to make this a race issue when it's not.
Here are some stat comparisons that you need to consider instead of looking at their skin color. Theyre the games that they both played in:
Vs. Bama
- Finley: 50% comp, 144 yds, 5.1 Y/A, 0 TD, 0 Int
- Johnson: 64.7% comp, 110 yds, 6.5 Y/A, 0 TD, 0 Int
Vs. TAMU
- Finley: 36% comp, 118 yds, 4.7 Y/A, 0 TD, 2 Int
- Johnson: 63.6% comp, 113 yds, 5.1 Y/A, 1 TD, 0 Int
Vs. Auburn
- Finley: 54.2% comp, 143yds, 6.0 Y/A, 0 TD, 2 Int
- Johnson: 62.5% comp, 172 yds, 7.2 Y/A, 1 TD, 0 Int
One thing your stats don’t say anything about is how many turnovers Finley makes relative to Max. Why would you make a case for Finley to start over Max when Max has CLEARLY been more consistent? Yes Finley played well against USC and so has everyone else thats played them. He had a chance and got beat by someone who doesnt turn the ball over so consistently. That's football.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:05 pm to slimySand
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One thing your stats don’t say anything about is how many turnovers Finley makes relative to Max
That’s why he only chose their first start and pretends that nothing else happens after that.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:15 pm to justustm2
Brandon Harris accounted for 5 total touchdowns and completed 79 percent of his passes in his first start..
Pointless..
Brennan is by far our best QB. I can argue about Finley and Johnson if you want, but it doesn't really matter.
Pointless..
Brennan is by far our best QB. I can argue about Finley and Johnson if you want, but it doesn't really matter.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:27 pm to tgerb8
Just another ignorant jackass using a false narrative to unleash his self loathing and vitriol like a parasite. There’s no reasoning with someone who isn’t even interested in the topic he raised.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:34 pm to Madking
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There’s no reasoning with someone who isn’t even interested in the topic he raised
Exactly, his purpose in starting this thread had nothing to do with his original post. He wanted to turn it into a race argument, so he could continue to tell us how racist we all are. He got a thread deleted yesterday for doing this same thing. He just needed a better disguise for this one.
Mission success I guess.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:39 pm to Bayoubengal205
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I don’t remember exactly how many drops we had in the FLA game. But a few drops were balls that were spot on and had no legit reason to be incompletions. I’m sure some would use the fog as an excuse, but as shown on tv, the fog wasn’t very dense down there on the field, and if I remember right Max even kept the balls low for that reason when he could.
Anyways, not bashing the receivers or running backs but take those few really bad drops away and Johnson’s stats tell a better story of his actual performance which I thought was stellar given the circumstances.
He missed some better reads, and made other freshman mistakes but he played a dam good game and kept his “head on the task at hand”.
It was also nice to see his interaction with the team in some of those locker room videos from after the game. He seems to be a real team player and seems to have some legit leadership attributes.
Futures bright.
Fog didn’t even start until 6 or 7 minutes left in 4th quarter
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:40 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
His argument doesn’t make any sense on any level, it’s false at every point. Finley was the darling of this fanbase after USC, people even said he was better than Brennan, so his narrative is bullshite. As his play declined the logical solution is to give the other true freshman a look and he performed brilliantly in a much tougher situation than any Finley had to deal with. But like you said this is some political meltdown, it has nothing to do with football.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 3:43 pm
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