re: QB debate should center around one thing: Offensive Production

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You are not smart enough to realize the hypocricy in this post. But it makes you look really fricking stupid. Even more stupid than you already do in this thread. And that's pretty fricking stupid.

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Sorry, but you are the idiot, since I also didn't give Lee credit in my analysis for his one play, one yard TD pass against ULL.

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uh, BOOM!

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Thank you

Thank you, very much

I believe that is possibly my first boom, ever

OK, I remember that more clearly now. On page one it said JJ had 0 TDs against Troy. I know he did have that one run cause I stayed at that cold arse game until the clock ran out.

Ya'll are looking at complete drive stats. Got it.

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It's incredibly unfair to ever say someone lost a game singlehandedly.

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Because JJ has never done anything that costs us points like fumbling on the 3 yd line. Or throwing an int in the Ga EZ. Or taking multiple sacks that pushed us out of FG range in various games. Or fumbling the ball on a 4th down play against Fla. Or only throwing the ball to the damn 5 yd line, on the last play of the game!

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this is a bigger problem than the talent at QB IMO

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Doc,

this is not meant to pick a fight, but as you posted, everyone questions the coaching of our QBs. So if it is a given that these two will continue being the QBs that they are:

Do we continue being the worst offense in the SEC for two yrs?

Or do we go with the big risk/big reward?

My preference is big reward. The defense or special teams can possibly bail us out of big 1 QB mistake a game, but they cannot do that when they are being worn down by being on the field most of the day.

IMHO

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Or taking multiple sacks that pushed us out of FG range in various games. Or fumbling the ball on a 4th down play against Fla. Or only throwing the ball to the damn 5 yd line, on the last play of the game!

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JJ has taken far far more sacks than JL has. And, wasn't is Jefferson who threw the last pass in that Ole Miss game down to the 5 yd line on the last play of the game? I'm not even blaming him for it, but it was him, was it not?

The bottom line is neither of these guys will be confused with Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy or Tim Tebow. Hopefully, whoever is playing will be improved enough that he can get the ball to our playmakers who can most definitely make plays. And hopefully, we will be able to return to a running game that more closely resembles 2007 than 2009.

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Do we continue being the worst offense in the SEC for two yrs?

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man, honestly I have no clue.

people on here apparently think I think that jefferson is the best QB around. which I never claimed in the first place. He has his flaws, as well as lee. I don't know if jefferson trusts himself enough sometimes, or trusts his team to block for him (which they have been known to fail at)

Meanwhile, Lee trusts himself so much to a fault He's very sure that he'll make the play, even if to us, it's a dumb decision.

The QB position is a question mark and a half right now... but I think the majority of that is the coaching.

If the QB's had better coaching for the QB position, LSU would be in a good spot right now, but as we can all see, neither QB is developing as fast as we thought they would.

I'm actually very objective in thought, as i'm sure you have read my poliboard posts. I just think at this point, jefferson might not be as much of a liability in a real game as lee.

It's just sad that I have to look at the position as that now. Let's play the one who is the safest.

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and I don't think you know the difference between a spread and spread option

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he doesn't

Here's the way I look at it:

JJ doesn't turn the ball over that often and is too unsusre of himself to take any chances whatsoever. Whether thats because he's worried he'll throw pick 6's or for some other reason, who knows, but its evident he plays scared. (sometimes i see throws/decisions that appear he's gaining confidence, but then one bad pass he goes back to being unsure of himself)

JLee on the other hand, like many of you said, plays fearless. He has almost too much confidence in himself and his arm and will try to make a play when he doesn't have to.

JLee really impressed me in the spring game. He actually went through his progressions, and at times dumped it off into the flats to the RB (something that he kept fudging up in 2008) I personally think he has improved a lot and could really be a catalyst to our offense in 2010.

Do we need to start him? No one here knows the answer for sure, because none of us are coaching and watching them day in and day out. I will support whoever the coaches decide to start.

Keep in mind it looks like we will have an improved Oline this year and that could be just what JJ needs to start leading this team on the field.

Who would I start in this situation? I honestly couldn't say, because it is APRIL.

My only opinion that I feel needs to happen is this: No matter who starts the season at QB, the coaches should keep an open mind to the fact that if said QB cannot consistently lead drives for points (we should NEVER have a game like florida last year) then they need to put in the other one and give him a chance. If JJ starts and looks the same as he did this year, I say put in Lee at half time or something and give him a shot.

No one knows if Lee will continue to throw pick 6's every game, but we all know and can agree that when he's not throwing pick 6's, he CAN lead an offense down the field quickly and in an impressive fashion. I know I've seen him do it.

Take from this what you will. I like things about both QB's and hate things about both QB's. Hopefully they both improve enough so that it doesn't matter which one is in, we can win with any of the two.