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re: Props to Trey’Dez Green

Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:30 pm to
Like I said yesterday, if you are typing then you are lying
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:35 pm to
Where’s the lie? Can barely see your fuzzy pics, most look like the guys are covered and there’s zero sense of when or who he threw the ball to. You have video but you chose these carefully placed pics instead. These 2-3 examples at most over 7 games doesn’t support your bs that he’s missing wide open guys all game, all season long. As usual you’re the one lying and like always you’re getting exposed.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:50 pm to
i don’t really care if you are too stupid to realize what is going on with these plays lmao
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:54 pm to
Who do you think you’re fooling Lester? We’ve all seen your videos so why the fuzzy still shots with some appearing to be blanketed? Hell that 2nd UCLA pic looks like the play where the WR ran into a DB and that’s your evidence. It ain’t just me buddy, everyone in the thread sees through you which is why you bailed for hours before sneaking back in here to post your predictably misleading “evidence” hoping nobody would notice so it looks like you had the final say. Again you don’t fool anybody, we’ve all seen your pathetic tactics and I knew you would pull this kind of stunt.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 8:57 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:07 pm to
Just think if you had had no standards with Jayden Daniels like you are doing with Nuss, you wouldn’t have said a lot of the dumb shite you did

It’s also sad I have to explain to grown men football fans what an open WR is
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:24 pm to
You have video but you refuse to post because some dude made you look like an arse when you didn’t know what you were doing trying to break down plays lol. Thats why you carefully took fuzzy screen shots to hide the truth. Another poster just told me lmfao, you clown
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:28 pm to
Tell me lies,
Tell me sweet little lies
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66564 posts
Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:31 pm to
You didn’t post videos after games? Why not now? Why not Lester?
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/25/24 at 10:47 pm to
So you to snips from a few plays of 100’s and that is all wide open? Where was the pressure from? What was the play call? Did the receiver run the route he was supposed to? How was the blocking up front? What order was the progression? Did he anticipate or did the receiver go get it. Was he supposed to throw it in an area versus on a line.
I can show you throws he made into windows that neither Burrow nor Daniels could make because of his arm talent. Does that mean he is as efficient as those guys? No. This is his first year starting and he has proven in these few games that scouts have him in the top 5 QBs in this class. Burrow and Daniels were second year out of LSU. Daniels was a 5 year starter and started the season like shite until the VR headset.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 12:11 am to
quote:

Trey'dez green should have 5 set plays per game.

Sloan needs to get him the ball.
Zavion Thomas doesn't get the ball enough either.

From whom would you take away touches?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52289 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 12:13 am to
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Literally sky is the limit for him.

Still not what “literally” means.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 12:15 am to
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in terms of Burrow and JD - does anybody have the numbers on downfield passing?

I don’t know, but I’d guess Daniels was at least twice as good as Nuss on deep balls.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 12:28 am to
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From whom would you take away touches?


Trey Dez green has 4 catches on the year. 2 of them were tds.

Zavion Thomas has rushed the ball 4 times for 48 yards. He is averaging 12 yards a carry. Why not go to that more?
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 6:25 am to
It doesn't take much to repost numbers from PFF.
The statistical analysis part is where the context is applied. You're jumbled on what context is, and seemingly too worried about attempting to insult somebody to unjumble.
The context refers to the circumstances around, and contributing to, the statistics. The offensive system and play calling, pass pro, injuries to receivers, defenses -- these are all contextual factors -- there are a lot of them.
What you are doing is narrowly looking at subsets of numbers. It's really opposite of contextualizing in statistical analysis. Subsets of data have their place too, when you want to focus on more specific parts of something. And that is something PFF does a good of tracking at times. But you have to realize that those subsets still have flaws -- factors they don't account for (e.g., penalties), and additional context in analysis.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 6:37 am to
Isn’t he probable for today?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 7:59 am to
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So you to snips from a few plays of 100’s and that is all wide open? Where was the pressure from? What was the play call? Did the receiver run the route he was supposed to? How was the blocking up front? What order was the progression? Did he anticipate or did the receiver go get it. Was he supposed to throw it in an area versus on a line.
I can show you throws he made into windows that neither Burrow nor Daniels could make because of his arm talent. Does that mean he is as efficient as those guys? No. This is his first year starting and he has proven in these few games that scouts have him in the top 5 QBs in this class. Burrow and Daniels were second year out of LSU. Daniels was a 5 year starter and started the season like shite until the VR headset.


This is the typical progression in the response to this.

-a bunch of excuses followed by
- he’s a 1st year starter and has things to work on, followed by
- Jayden & burrow weren’t this good


I’m sitting here saying he has things to work on, yet you will only squeeze that in the middle of your dumb rant like there is a colossal disagreement here.

Stop letting this trigger you when you agree with me !
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 8:27 am to
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actors they don't account for (e.g., penalties),


Again, this is your attempting to inject your own bias to protect the player that you like.

As long as every player is measured the same way and you understand what they are being measured on, there are no biases or flaws with the stat. And we know for 100yrs that penalties have never been accounted for within completion percentage.


You cannot attempt lecture me and not understand these things, I am sorry.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5175 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 12:44 pm to
All of what I've said on context and numbers being incomplete applies across the board to every player.

Some penalties could go the other way too. Let's say a QB puts a deep ball in a spot where it could be intercepted, and the receiver prevents the interception with an offensive PI. That's an all-around negative play from an offense perspective. Unaccounted for in the statistics.
For our conversation, though, I remember two defensive PI penalties on deep balls that were put right on receivers. One to Lacy against South Carolina, and one to Daniels against Arkansas.
You just don't even acknowledge these plays. It's ignorant.
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