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re: Problem with Steve E. Is that he can’t make in game adjustments..
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:38 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Yep. That's why I'm not all in with the fire Ensminger crowd. Yes, we have to get better on offense and have to coach better to be even better next year. But, a 10 win regular season is nothing to sneeze at.
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:40 pm to LSUBadger
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Name one of our offensive starters who is going to be a 1-2 rd draft pick when they are draft eligibl
Some of our wrs definitely have a chance.
Also, both of these coaches have been on staff for years. The inherited a wealth of offensive talent. If we lack talent its on them.
I don't think anyone is asking for 2013 offense but this offense is worse than any miles offense statistically.
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We need more talent and depth on offense
Then maybe we strive for better than top 15 classes and 12 players outside the top 20 at their position.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:42 pm to TigerLunatik
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. That's why I'm not all in with the fire Ensminger crowd. Yes, we have to get better on offense and have to coach better to be even better next year. But, a 10 win regular season is nothing to sneeze at.
So if next year a White-less and Greedy-less defense isn't quite as good, you have faith our offense will be able to carry us through some games?
E will come up with a way to score against Bama for the first time in 120 minutes?
10 wins is nice, but we're handcuffing ourselves by not having a better offense. And we can't count on the defense to carry us through so many games ever year. We just fired a guy for doing just that, because his 8 and 9 win seasons were becoming too often.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:48 pm to Tigerstark
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you have faith our offense will be able to carry us through some games?
At this point? Not really, but IF this team wins 10 games, that's a huge improvement as a team. I don't think you can just keep firing your OC after every season. IF we can get a Briles or a Freeze then, yes of course you go that route. But, I don't agree with just firing Ensminger just to fire him.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:10 pm to saturncube21
The problem w Steve E is his offense stinks.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:27 pm to OleSkule
quote:SE knows enough football to get the team to 8-4/9-3 type seasons. Not sure if he's "Progressive" enough to do more than that. I would like to see what he could do with much better OL talent, but that's several years away minimum.
Quit bitching. Ensminger knows more about football than all you morons put together. You don't coach the game for almost 40 years and not know what you are doing.
The Offense has scored Z E R O points against Alabama in 2016 and 2018 while E was OC. Fact.
Our OL is Sun Belt-SWAC caliber. Fact.
Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one...…..
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:34 pm to semjase
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Our OL is Sun Belt-SWAC caliber. Fact.
Just because you type "fact" after a statement, that doesn't make it true.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:17 pm to OleSkule
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Quit bitching. Ensminger knows more about football than all you morons put together. You don't coach the game for almost 40 years and not know what you are doing.
The length of his career is irrelevant. Ensminger is not cut out to be an offensive coordinator, especially not in 2018. He's never been a good offensive coordinator. He has done a very poor job this season. You, like Ensminger, apparently have no clue what the hell has occurred in college football the last decade or so. Your offense is now every bit as important as your defense. Those like Freeze and Dabo and Briles are running schemes that can compete with sabamm. You and Ensminger are clueless.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 12:52 am to TigerLunatik
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Just because you type "fact" after a statement, that doesn't make it true.
Bashing the oline is his schtick. He has bashed every oline since 2011
He bashed the 2015 & 2016 olines that had 3 all sec players and a rimington award finalist
Posted on 11/10/18 at 3:36 am to Rickdaddy4188
I agree. No reverses, not much misdirection, halfback pass, only 1-2 screen passes, one jet sweep. Everything pass should have been 1-2-3 throw from the shotgun. And move the pocket or full roll out to keep the rush from pinning their ears back. Play action quit working early when the running game didn't work.
Plus Joe didn't run the ball at all. I thought he should have kept the ball on the zone read several times as the end/OLB took the RB.
Plus Joe didn't run the ball at all. I thought he should have kept the ball on the zone read several times as the end/OLB took the RB.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 4:57 am to Brazos
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No doubt Bama has more talent but I guarantee you an OC worth a shite would have had LSU in the game at least.
What are the names of these worth a shite OC's who've lit it up against Bama?
Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:23 am to CajunPhil
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a shite OC's who've lit it up against Bama?
Lit it up? No one is saying we need to do that - though many have over the years, on a lot better Bama defenses than we just played. How about just scoring a point. Any point. At all.
How about not running a slow developing play action pass from inside your own 10, when you supposedly know your OL is getting beaten like a drum, which gives Bama the chance to go up by more than 9 at half. You realize that if the offense doesn't screw the pooch there, we are down 9 at half. Without anything from the offense helping at all.
You're telling me we shouldn't expect our offense to be able to score something to match that in the first half? One TD, two FGs? Something? Thats too much to ask?
But I guess when you've experienced LSU football the last 10 years, 1 TD in the first half would seem like a team who "lit" it up.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 7:24 am
Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:55 am to saturncube21
Nothing has frickin changed. Until we get a great quarterback and an offensive coach to put a modern game plan together we will NEVER beat bama
Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:57 am to The Blue Stuff
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great quarterback
No one needs a great quarteback - just one suited for the good system. Stidham at Auburn, Kelly at Ole Miss? These weren't "great" quarterbacks.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:47 am to saturncube21
We need players..... You heard coach O say this.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:13 am to saturncube21
You must not have gotten the memo.
It’s no concern this offensive staff and HC haven’t been able to figure out a way to score on Bama in 8 qts of football played in TS. Just be happy we are on schedule to win 10 games, Winning 10 games is now the standard for LSU football having “great” seasons.
It’s no concern this offensive staff and HC haven’t been able to figure out a way to score on Bama in 8 qts of football played in TS. Just be happy we are on schedule to win 10 games, Winning 10 games is now the standard for LSU football having “great” seasons.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:56 am to saturncube21
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Problem with Steve E. Is that he can’t make in game adjustments
You are a bald-faced LIAR! He is the best OC in the country
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:11 am to Tigerstark
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Don't expect answers to questions like this - then they would have to admit there are problems with the scheme
Watching some of the plays right now. LSU'S right tackle wasn't even getting a hand on his guy as he flashed past him. It doesn't matter what play you call if the offensive guys are barely out of their stance when the bama player blows by. This argument over scheme vs players is ridiculous. Until LSU gets better players on the offensive line it doesn't matter what the scheme is.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:25 am to bencoleman
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Watching some of the plays right now. LSU'S right tackle wasn't even getting a hand on his guy as he flashed past him. It doesn't matter what play you call if the offensive guys are barely out of their stance when the bama player blows by. This argument over scheme vs players is ridiculous. Until LSU gets better players on the offensive line it doesn't matter what the scheme is.
In the history of football, no one has ever used a TE or back to help chip an outside rusher. No one has ever used their movement up the field against them.
Again, you point purely to the bama game. This is not a one game problem with the offense disappearing for long stretches.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:33 am to The Blue Stuff
Lacatoure
Gilmore
Herron
Donnie Alexander
Voorhies
MJ Patterson
Corey Thompson
Clark
Eight guys from last years front seven. Not one drafted and none made a roster as free agents
The same people claiming the offensive issues this year are coaching rather than personnel were the ones claiming the cupboard was left full by Miles.
The lack of actual talent on last years front seven is very comparable to what we have on the OL this year
Not one guy on our current starting OL will be drafted before the 6th round. Who was the last LSU O lineman drafted in the 1-2 rds?
Andrew Whitworth?
Gilmore
Herron
Donnie Alexander
Voorhies
MJ Patterson
Corey Thompson
Clark
Eight guys from last years front seven. Not one drafted and none made a roster as free agents
The same people claiming the offensive issues this year are coaching rather than personnel were the ones claiming the cupboard was left full by Miles.
The lack of actual talent on last years front seven is very comparable to what we have on the OL this year
Not one guy on our current starting OL will be drafted before the 6th round. Who was the last LSU O lineman drafted in the 1-2 rds?
Andrew Whitworth?
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