re: Prediction for Football Season, tell me why I'm wrong

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Let's say for a minute that I agree with you that the game was lost because of our lack of depth, shouldn't a good coach go into a game with a game plan that accounts for that when playing a far inferior opponent?

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You don't think they game planned. Give me a freaking break. They game planned their arse off, but when the deficit is so great, no amount of game planning could make up for that deficit, and again that's not O's fault, he inherited that problem from his predecessor Les Miles. Hence, it's Les Mile's fault. Give me a break. Common-sense is dead.

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If I didn't know better, I'd say it sounds like you're saying Orgeron would have won the national championship in '06 and '11 if he had been the coach instead of Miles.

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Of course.

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TigerLunatik

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Wish more posters were as cool, calm, and collect as you--myself included. Thanks for providing a bit of sanity.

Hear hear.

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You're obviously talking about the Moo State loss and the Troy State loss to a very good 12 & 2 team.

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I am?


Where did I insinuate that? Where did I even mention Troy or Moo State in my last post?



You want to pretend that all these wins were against decent teams so it puts O in a positive light so you think it'll add a tiny bit of substance to your bs argument that he's an awesome coach but the reality of the matter is that while on paper, 9 wins looks great but since you like to skip over this it bears repeating, 6 of those 9 wins were to teams that had at least 6 losses. That's a fact.

So let's not act as though it was like he beat teams that are on the level with Alabama, tOSU, Clemson and so on. They were weak teams (4 of which fired their HC, one resigned before the season started) that he should've beaten. When he faced a team with a halfway decent defense, the team struggled. See the Florida game. They've always had a good defense but their offense was beyond terrible. If they don't miss that PAT, that could be another loss.

The Notre Dame bowl game loss was a fluke? It further proves that when O's team is faced with a better than average defense, the team struggles. The results speak for themselves.
You said yourself in regards to the bowl game, while your awesome coach had 3 weeks to prepare,"it was a fluke." Georgia beat them by one point and went on to play in the playoffs.

That was on Miles too, I assume. When it rains during a game, is that on Miles too? I bet the post game traffic is Miles' fault as well.


O is running the program into the ground and you're simply stirring the pot because you that's all you have left to do. God forbid you actually admit you were incorrect about something and admit that your garbage debate is full of more holes than a screen door.

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that was not O's fault, that was Les Miles' fault

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Constantly repeating this doesn't make it true. Who is the head coach? Miles or Orgeron?

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With respect to our 15th ranked recruiting class this year

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Isn't O supposed to be one of the best recruiters out there? Or is this on Miles as well?

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you losers better figure out a way to fire coach O this season

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He'll do that on his own.

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Ed will be competing for national championships and you losers will be stuck with him for many, many years to come.

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Troll confirmed.

Put them all together...

Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, Kirby Smart, James Franklin, Dan Mullen, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Lincoln Riley, Tom Herman, Jimbo Fisher, Chris Peterson, Mike Leach, Mark Richt, Pat Fitzgerald, Chip Kelly, Ed Orgeron.

Who is the dumbest person in the room? We hired him.

Apparently you can't read very well. I said we had great players in some "spots" and you don't have a complete team with "spots". You need to fill every area of need and LSU under Les Miles wasn't doing that.

That's the reason that this team seemed to be young every year. Every year we were young in certain areas. Young DL and the Secondary when we had a veteran offense. Young OL, QB, WRs, when we had a veteran Defense. It was this rotating door and with the players leaving early, it just accelerated the problem. This is why you have to stock up in all areas, while grabbing transfers, and Juco players to fill the gaps. I don't give a damn what you people say, LSU needed an overhaul of sorts when O took over. The entire front seven was SOFT as frick when Aranda showed up. Then when O took over he saw the same thing on the OL, and IMO that's why many of those guys left the program. It had zero to do with O ruining our depth but making room to add quality depth. It's going to pay off too.

Another issue with the previous staff was that he wouldn't play the young players on the LOS to get them experience. I see O doing the opposite and it may be out of necessity, but he's still doing it. That's where games are won. LSU now needs to put it's entire focus on the offense, QB, OL, WRs, RBs, and TEs this offseason and let Aranda do his thing on defense.

Everyone else should commit the time and focus on the offense. Talk to them about the importance of staying after hours to perfect their game as a team. Something has to be different this year than was in previous years. The defense is veteran enough to be fine under Aranda.

On offense we need leaders to emerge early and at every position group. It can't wait until the fall and into the year. It needs to happen now and into the fall then the year. It needs to be the QBs who show up early, work harder than the rest and then stay late. The more time they spend with each other now will make for a tight group who knows each other later.

Let's hope the coaches are instilling this into this offensive group. We will need a mature group come September. LSU has the talent, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. We need the right leadership from the top down. Go get them TIGERS!!!

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Whatever you are smoking package it up and put it for sale. You will get very rich very fast. The only reason LSU won and became the first and only two-loss team to ever win a National Championship in 2007, is because a miracle happened and we lucked out backing our way into that game after Miles lost two games to two teams we should never have lost to.

Moreover, all those players were primarily Nick Saban's players and not Les Miles' players.

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How were all of the players primarily Saban's players when Miles had the '05, '06, and '07 recruiting classes that were on that NC team? That's 3/4s of the team right there, moonbat.

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Hell no, why should I?

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Well you say Les is to blame for the Troy loss which occurred almost exactly 1 year from his firing as head coach. Surely he gets credit for our win against Auburn merely two weeks after that Troy loss, right? Or did O somehow manage to neutralize Les' invisible hand that had a grip on the program up until that point? I'm all ears if you're able to explain this phenomenon to me.

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Surely he gets credit for our win against Auburn merely two weeks after that Troy loss, right? Or did O somehow manage to neutralize Les' invisible hand that had a grip on the program up until that point? 

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In Cowboy's defense, I believe he is saying that there were injured players against Troy that returned vs Auburn and that's why he credits Les with the Troy loss and not the Auburn win. His take is that the lack of depth was the cause for the loss.

Of course, I disagree, but I think he's been pretty consistent there. My apologies if I spoke incorrectly for you SC.