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re: Pray for John Emery’s mom and her fiancé
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:17 am to Tigrdynasty
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:17 am to Tigrdynasty
I apologize for venting my frustrations in this thread.
My thoughts are with John's family in this tough time.
My thoughts are with John's family in this tough time.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:27 am to Byrdybyrd05
Yall pray for my daughter as well! Frick covid
Posted on 3/29/20 at 8:55 am to themunch
Prayers sent I went to HS with Webb. He is the best QB to play the position at John Ehret. Drafted by the Expos straight out of HS.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/29/20 at 9:20 am to Tigrdynasty
The following is a repost from an ER doctor in New Orleans. They are about to be overwhelmed soon.
"I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Class of 98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients
I had never discharged multifocal pneumonia before. Now I personally do it 12-15 times a shift. 2 weeks ago we were admitting anyone who needed supplemental oxygen. Now we are discharging with oxygen if the patient is comfortable and oxygenating above 92% on nasal cannula. We have contracted with a company that sends a paramedic to their home twice daily to check on them and record a pulse ox. We know many of these patients will bounce back but if it saves a bed for a day we have accomplished something. Obviously we are fearful some won't make it back.
We are a small community hospital. Our 22 bed ICU and now a 4 bed Endoscopy suite are all Covid 19. All of these patients are intubated except one. 75% of our floor beds have been cohorted into covid 19 wards and are full. We are averaging 4 rescue intubations a day on the floor. We now have 9 vented patients in our ER transferred down from the floor after intubation.
Luckily we are part of a larger hospital group. Our main teaching hospital repurposed space to open 50 new Covid 19 ICU beds this past Sunday so these numbers are with significant decompression. Today those 50 beds are full. They are opening 30 more by Friday. But even with the "lockdown", our AI models are expecting a 200-400% increase in covid 19 patients by 4/4/2020.
Treatment
Supportive
worldwide 86% of covid 19 patients that go on a vent die. Seattle reporting 70%. Our hospital has had 5 deaths and one patient who was extubated. Extubation happens on day 10 per the Chinese and day 11 per Seattle.
One of my colleagues who is a 31 yo old female who graduated residency last may with no health problems and normal BMI is out with the symptoms and an SaO2 of 92%. She will be the first of many.
Scary shite down there.
"I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Class of 98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients
I had never discharged multifocal pneumonia before. Now I personally do it 12-15 times a shift. 2 weeks ago we were admitting anyone who needed supplemental oxygen. Now we are discharging with oxygen if the patient is comfortable and oxygenating above 92% on nasal cannula. We have contracted with a company that sends a paramedic to their home twice daily to check on them and record a pulse ox. We know many of these patients will bounce back but if it saves a bed for a day we have accomplished something. Obviously we are fearful some won't make it back.
We are a small community hospital. Our 22 bed ICU and now a 4 bed Endoscopy suite are all Covid 19. All of these patients are intubated except one. 75% of our floor beds have been cohorted into covid 19 wards and are full. We are averaging 4 rescue intubations a day on the floor. We now have 9 vented patients in our ER transferred down from the floor after intubation.
Luckily we are part of a larger hospital group. Our main teaching hospital repurposed space to open 50 new Covid 19 ICU beds this past Sunday so these numbers are with significant decompression. Today those 50 beds are full. They are opening 30 more by Friday. But even with the "lockdown", our AI models are expecting a 200-400% increase in covid 19 patients by 4/4/2020.
Treatment
Supportive
worldwide 86% of covid 19 patients that go on a vent die. Seattle reporting 70%. Our hospital has had 5 deaths and one patient who was extubated. Extubation happens on day 10 per the Chinese and day 11 per Seattle.
One of my colleagues who is a 31 yo old female who graduated residency last may with no health problems and normal BMI is out with the symptoms and an SaO2 of 92%. She will be the first of many.
Scary shite down there.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:11 am to Speedy Greedy
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You have been a member since 2005 so I'm going to estimate that you are 45. Let's say you got the flu 10 times, has it ever put you on a ventilator?
Well since 2005 a statistical glance will show that millions have died globally from the flu and of course they go on ventilators in order to try to save them when they get pneumonia. Just because the 24/7 news never bothered to breathlessly cover every case with in depth coverage doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
You do realize ALOT of perfectly healthy young people in this country die every year from complications with the flu but ESPECIALLY pneumonia? Just because it never happened to someone close to you or the nightly news never cared to run a headline story about it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening every year all over this country.
The one silver lining and great irony to this entire situation is maybe moving forward people in this country will have a greater awareness to how serious and deadly influenza is in general and take it more seriously.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:42 am to J2thaROC
You're trying to explain science to someone who believes that Noahs Arc is a true story.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 12:59 pm to Speedy Greedy
quote:
Let's say you got the flu 10 times, has it ever put you on a ventilator?
Nope but the vast, vast majority of people that get the China Virus aren’t going on a ventilator either. It’s not better or worse, it’s different. Different viruses attack people in different ways depending on underlying conditions.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 1:12 pm to CDawson
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Nope but the vast, vast majority of people that get the China Virus aren’t going on a ventilator either. It’s not better or worse, it’s different. Different viruses attack people in different ways depending on underlying conditions.
And this is the reason the United States' economy should not be destroyed. The fallout would be way worse than a small percentage of deaths due to the China virus.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 1:28 pm to OU812
There is a political board for these conversations. Please take all these political posts to that board.
My prayers go to The Emery family and to the coaches family.Going under a ventilator is life and death. I hope both recover.
My prayers go to The Emery family and to the coaches family.Going under a ventilator is life and death. I hope both recover.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 1:56 pm to Tigrdynasty
Correct
And perhaps the major emphasis behind this is the unknown influx of at risk people into the hospital system and the threat of lack of capacity and the impact then of having people have lack of access and die with reversible, non-COVID disease.
And when the infectivity rate (Ro) is above 2, reliable models tell you a high number of people will be hospitalized and compromise the system.
The approach you are advocating is to ignore the models and the situation in Italy and just assume the system can absorb the excess. I don’t see any data to support that approach sitting here today. In retrospect, we may see that models were off, but the growth curve of new cases does not support that today.
I hope everyone stricken with this recovers.
And perhaps the major emphasis behind this is the unknown influx of at risk people into the hospital system and the threat of lack of capacity and the impact then of having people have lack of access and die with reversible, non-COVID disease.
And when the infectivity rate (Ro) is above 2, reliable models tell you a high number of people will be hospitalized and compromise the system.
The approach you are advocating is to ignore the models and the situation in Italy and just assume the system can absorb the excess. I don’t see any data to support that approach sitting here today. In retrospect, we may see that models were off, but the growth curve of new cases does not support that today.
I hope everyone stricken with this recovers.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 3:06 pm to TKLSUMD
Can you or someone else explain the bit about his colleague? Is he implying she is going to die? Or just the first of many healthcare employees who will be catching the virus?
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:51 am to Speedy Greedy
quote:
You have been a member since 2005 so I'm going to estimate that you are 45. Let's say you got the flu 10 times, has it ever put you on a ventilator?
A lot of people are just straight nuts. These same people dying from Covid-19 have had the flu PLENTY of times and were still alive. There's no vaccine and there is nothing they can really do for you. You just have to hope that your body is strong enough to get through it.
People don't understand the complete and utter disaster that could have happened if we didn't have some form of a shutdown. It's pretty simple on why there aren't as many cases as the flu, nothing shuts down during the flu season. Nothing is banned. You are free to infect any and everybody by coughing and sneezing around them unimpeded (though you really shouldn't, but some people just don't care). Also, not everybody that has tried to get tested, been allowed to be tested like the flu.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:09 am to adambomb
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Can you or someone else explain the bit about his colleague? Is he implying she is going to die? Or just the first of many healthcare employees who will be catching the virus?
I believe he was implying that she is the first of many providers to get sick. With a decreased oxygen saturation, she likely has pneumonia. Hopefully she will survive it as she is younger. At a minimum, she will not be able to work for at least 2 weeks.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:41 am to adambomb
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Can you or someone else explain the bit about his colleague? Is he implying she is going to die? Or just the first of many healthcare employees who will be catching the virus?
One of my buddy’s actually wrote this. He just means that she is 31. She shouldn’t be hypoxic and on oxygen.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 6:42 am
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:27 pm to Byrdybyrd05
quote:Garrison is a great dude.....
They have coronavirus and her fiancé is on a ventilator.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:25 pm to Melvin
Prayers Melvin.
Prayers.
Not vibes.
Prayers.
Not vibes.
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