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Please stop the hand-wringing about the defense

Posted on 9/9/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3618 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 4:14 pm
Aranda is the best defensive coach we've had since Saban. We've just come off of an impressive win against one of the top offenses in the country at their place, early in the season and we're still seeing people attacking Aranda.

Is there any school in the country that wouldn't seriously consider him for DC?

Why does his salary matter? By design, O's salary gives us breathing room to absorb it.

The anti-Aranda threads do nothing but sow discord at a time when we are being discussed as a playoff-caliber team. Please stop the hand-wringing.
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:12 pm to
The thing is the defense was good until everybody started going down to injuries and cramps. The one concern id have is that they picked on our backups as soon as they touched the field. When Delpit was out for a drive getting an IV they repeatedly attacked Harris and we gave up a TD. The most notable absence was Lawrence once he went out there was a noticeable lack of push from the DLine aside from the sack that Logan got late in the game. Good thing we have about a month to get those guys ready to go before Florida.
Posted by Desert King
Member since Oct 2018
1936 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:15 pm to
Aranda’s last 3 games against teams with a pulse:

TAMU - 74 points
UCF - 32 points
TX - 38 points

I realize the A&M game is skewed because of overtime, but the reason the game went on and on is because the defense couldn’t stop them.

I’m not saying Aranda isn’t a good DC - clearly his career says otherwise. At the same time, it’s not sacrilege to admit that his unit hasn’t exactly been elite as of late.
Posted by Jay504Wb
Westbank
Member since Oct 2018
97 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:17 pm to
These are the same fans that wanted to elevate Aranda to head coach the last few seasons......
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:19 pm to
We had WR’s playing corner against UCF and Texas is good sometimes a team just gets the better of you. The players left some plays out there as well. If Fulton doesn’t uncharacteristically gamble and lose his balance on the first TD pass and instead just runs with the Receiver and breaks up the pass that’s 7 points that they don’t get. If Todd Harris simply just hits the ball (he missed the ball by inches) on the 3rd down TD he gave up then they probably kick the field goal on 4th and long. On the garbage time TD both Queen and Stevens jumped to bat the ball down and missed it.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:19 pm to
When did Texas become one of the top offenses in the country?

OU, Clemson, OSU, Bama, some Pac 10 teams, 4-5 othe big 12 teams I can understand but all of a sudden Texas is an offensive juggernaut
Posted by TheBear60
Member since Aug 2017
366 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 5:35 pm to
Let me understand this: you want us to rush 4 & than blitz 2 against a QB who can & will run as well as he passes.....& he passes pretty good. With the offense's checks, they keep the RB & TE to pick up the blitz & the blitzers have a 50/50 chance to get caught in the wash. The QB's then breaks containment as the WR's take the 3 CB's, who are in man to man, go deep. The two safeties who are 15 & 20 yards deep & dropping not to let the WR's get behind them must now come up to the QB, who slides down after he gets a first down. If he does this once every three downs, he keeps his drive going.
What am I missing.
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1215 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

Aranda is the best defensive coach we've had since Saban. 


Can you back that up with some stats, or are you just enamored with his intelligent sounding interviews.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

What am I missing.


Tell me what happened on the drives we stopped them
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:08 pm to
People that use overtime points against him are morons. OT in college favors the offense heavily and does so for a reason.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:10 pm to
The defense is fine. Texas was an anomaly
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:11 pm to
the defense played far better in the first half than they did after halftime. The fact that they received no IV's at half leads me to believe this affected their performance in the second half. Had they been hydrated, I'm sure they would have been a lot closer to the LSU defense that we are all use to watching.
Posted by zoom
everywhere
Member since Apr 2013
3567 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:11 pm to
Anti aranda people are fools. Really don't know shite
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47858 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:12 pm to
The stats were posted all spring and summer long that had Dave Aranda as the top DC in the power 5 since he became a DC. Better than Venables or anyone else. This was done at least 5 times so you’re free to go and check for yourself.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47858 posts
Posted on 9/9/19 at 6:14 pm to
The plan wasn’t great but injuries, a couple of mistimed jumps from DBs on crucial downs, fatigue and a short rotation up front were mostly to blame.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3618 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Can you back that up with some stats, or are you just enamored with his intelligent sounding interviews.


Who of Pelini, Malaveto, Chavis, or Steele is better? Am I missing anyone?

Oh, and back up your response with stats.
Posted by Tigerbloods
Member since Aug 2018
213 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 8:15 am to
It is just strange that Aranda's best defense was his first year here. And since then, the talent on the D has gone up but the results have gone down. I dont know if teams are privy to his scheme but it seems the D should be getting better every year.

I still believe the D will be elite this year. I dont think they played as bad as it appeared against UT. That 19 play drive really killed us. But we still made them have make plays to score. We just couldnt make the play on 3rd and 4th downs and it kept UT in the game.

Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4338 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 8:22 am to
Ok. I do not know the answer here. But we had a bend don’t break. Contain rush approach. We did not blitz much. Consequently ehlinger had six or seven seconds to throw. We gave him the opportunity to have a Heisman night. A couple of,times when our rush got out of lanes and went past him he gashed us.

We dropped seven/eight against Tua and he killed us.. we made Mond look like a Heisman winner as well. Clearly Aranada knows something we do not. Anyway has to,get better.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Aranda’s last 3 games against teams with a pulse: TAMU - 74 points UCF - 32 points TX - 38 points I realize the A&M game is skewed because of overtime, but the reason the game went on and on is because the defense couldn’t stop them. I’m not saying Aranda isn’t a good DC - clearly his career says otherwise. At the same time, it’s not sacrilege to admit that his unit hasn’t exactly been elite as of late.



Now I won't condemn you because what you've written is factually true. But, it is a bit mis-leading. UCF was a game with 5 starters missing on D I believe and like you said A&M was what it was. I was upset with Aranda during the second half, after putting it in perspective realize this was just one great offense putting a ton of pressure on our D. The best Defense/Team we have ever had ('11) also got blazed early by a similar offense and they still bounced back so I will wait a few weeks before I get too upset with Aranda. After all the dude has been great his entire time with LSU.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9345 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 8:39 am to
quote:

But we had a bend don’t break. Contain rush approach.

Aranda has never been (what I would consider) blitz-heavy at LSU. He focuses on putting players in position to make plays and, ultimately, stop drives. The expectation is that our athletes can win one-on-one vs. their athletes, and it’s usually true.

I’d like to see the yards-after-contact stats from Saturday, because I think a ton of those drives would have stalled if not for missed open field tackles.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 8:44 am
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