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re: Please just read this article before condemning Casey
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:46 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:46 am to ProjectP2294
quote:I dont want Casey but I want it to be about baseball, and not being afraid of modern day mobs. I refuse to be a part of that
Anyone that wants Casey needs to ask themselves if this is the type of conversation they want to have as long as he's the coach here.
I don't want Casey.
As much as a bitch about mob culture, I couldnt look in the mirror if I willingly participated in it
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 8:47 am
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:48 am to ProjectP2294
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And I definitely don't want to parse the details of washington state law and child molestation in a baseball conversation.
Then it shouldn't be in the conversation as to why you don't want him as a coach.
If he's too old fine....if he is burned out fine....if he can't coach worth a shite fine....all of those are in the conversation and are very valid points of consideration for employment as head baseball coach.
A guy that was accused and pled guilty to a very iffy charge of child molestation 5 years before he met the guy in play for the job should not be a consideration for employment.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:49 am to lsupride87
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You think that guy or the rest of the mob read any of that?
I looked at all of it when the story broke years ago. I also looked at the Washington state criminal code articles that applied to the case. I also looked at the possible sentences Hemlich faced if convicted.
Literally other than a few weeks in a juvenile detention center, Hemlich was no better off taking the plea, yet he still took it.
I recommend the white knights in here so more research than reading a single article.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:49 am to lsupride87
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I dont want Casey but I want it to be about baseball
There are enough reasons there as well.
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As much as a bitch about mob culture, I couldnt look in the mirror if I willingly participated in it
I get that.
But I still don't want to have to even talk about child molestation any time I talk about baseball. And that will always be a part of any conversation involving Pat Casey.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:50 am to lsupride87
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o, your favorite coach on campus you love on here daily admitted to beating the shite out of women in the court of law
So you might want to trade in your high horse regardless
exactlyPosted on 6/10/21 at 8:50 am to LSU316
quote:Yeh that was a perfect statement from project to show the mob mentality
Then it shouldn't be in the conversation as to why you don't want him as a coach.
"I dont want to read any details or facts on what happened, I simply want to use it as a reason for not hiring"
Wonderful
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:50 am to LSU316
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Then it shouldn't be in the conversation as to why you don't want him as a coach.
Yeah, that's not really how that works.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:51 am to logjamming
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Hemlich was no better off taking the plea, yet he still took it.
So you don't understand the fact that he didn't want to subject his 6 yr neice (his parent's granddaughter...his brother's daughter) to the terror for her that would be cross examination from a defense attorney on the stand?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:51 am to ProjectP2294
My reasons for not wanting him have everything to do with the program.
I don’t want a coach who has already burned out once. He won’t last very long and every young, proven, motivated coach in our league is going to be able to recruit against that.
He has no ties to the SEC or the area. This is why Cain has to come with the deal. So we end up with the same paid assistant who doesn’t actually coach anything meaningful and are left trying to find a hitting or pitching coach willing to work as a volunteer. This is dumb now and is part of the reason we are where we are.
Being here only 5 years does absolutely nothing for me. How does he recruit kids and parents with that kind of doubt for the future when winning right now isn’t guaranteed? I know we aren’t a complete rebuild but that doesn’t mean our only issue is tweaking a lineup or better pitching decisions.
I don’t want a coach who has already burned out once. He won’t last very long and every young, proven, motivated coach in our league is going to be able to recruit against that.
He has no ties to the SEC or the area. This is why Cain has to come with the deal. So we end up with the same paid assistant who doesn’t actually coach anything meaningful and are left trying to find a hitting or pitching coach willing to work as a volunteer. This is dumb now and is part of the reason we are where we are.
Being here only 5 years does absolutely nothing for me. How does he recruit kids and parents with that kind of doubt for the future when winning right now isn’t guaranteed? I know we aren’t a complete rebuild but that doesn’t mean our only issue is tweaking a lineup or better pitching decisions.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:51 am to ProjectP2294
quote:I get that, and think thats a fair reason to not want him
But I still don't want to have to even talk about child molestation any time I talk about baseball. And that will always be a part of any conversation involving Pat Casey.
But earlier you seemed to be jumping on more of a staunch position as it relates to the heimlich deal yourself
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:52 am to logjamming
quote:This is patently false.
Literally other than a few weeks in a juvenile detention center, Hemlich was no better off taking the plea, yet he still took it.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:52 am to Magician2
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Cain would remain on staff and be groomed as the next head coach.
This is 100% my issue with Casey
He couldn’t handle the stress of the PAC 12 but is bored so he’s looking at coaching again
Knowing he doesn’t know the area & has been out of the recruiting game he keeps Cain & in 2 years when he can’t deal with the stress again / misses his grandkids he leaves & we are stuck with Cain as HC
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:53 am to ProjectP2294
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And that will always be a part of any conversation involving Pat Casey.
From idiots sure.....and it would subside after he won his first national title...potentially in his first year on the job....again assuming he is the man.
I really think he is a smoke screen for another coach....but I could be wrong.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:53 am to logjamming
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Literally other than a few weeks in a juvenile detention center, Hemlich was no better off taking the plea,
If he didnt take the plea, and he was found guilty, he was going to be known as a child predator and his life ruined
The plea was actually supposed to prevent that. That is a HUGE difference
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:55 am to lsupride87
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Yeh that was a perfect statement from project to show the mob mentality
"I dont want to read any details or facts on what happened, I simply want to use it as a reason for not hiring"
I read the details and know what happened.
I'm talking about going forward. If he's our coach, any time I randomly have a conversation about LSU baseball with someone, I don't feel like explaining the nuance of this shite every time I tell someone I'm an LSU baseball fan.
That's not "mob mentality". That's being reasonable.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:56 am to lsupride87
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But earlier you seemed to be jumping on more of a staunch position as it relates to the heimlich deal yourself
I will own that. That is definitely "mob mentality".
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:57 am to LSU316
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So you don't understand the fact that he didn't want to subject his 6 yr neice (his parent's granddaughter...his brother's daughter) to the terror for her that would be cross examination from a defense attorney on the stand?
Oh man. Not only was this guy innocent, but he literally fell on the sword and pled guilty to child molestation to prevent his accuser from having to go through cross examination?
Are you sure we’re talking about Luke Hemlich, and not Jesus Christ?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:58 am to lsupride87
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If he didnt take the plea, and he was found guilty, he was going to be known as a child predator and his life ruined The plea was actually supposed to prevent that. That is a HUGE difference
Know how I know you didn’t look up any of the sentences this kid was facing and don’t know how juvenile records work?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:58 am to logjamming
Technically his parents and the alleged victims grandparents made that decision. He was told what to do. They were trying to do what was best for the whole family. It’s relevant.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:59 am to ProjectP2294
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I will own that. That is definitely "mob mentality".
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