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re: Please convince me this is not Tepper's drop linebacker def.
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:29 am to Hot Carl
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:29 am to Hot Carl
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he dropped big, slow, white LBs
Uhh Tepper NEVER had a white drop Linebacker! Dunson was NOT the drop Linebacker he was the INSIDE linebacker unless you are calling Jamal Hill white?
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:29 am to L S Usetheforce
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15 of the 20 years the man coached it was top 5
nationally or in the SEC?
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:30 am to ATLTiger
The SEC.........you know the most competitive conference in the country.........where teams had the likes of Danny Wuerffel........Peyton Manning.......Eli Manning.......Josh Reed......Jason Campbell, Ronnie Brown, and Caddy.......
This post was edited on 3/16/09 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:31 am to L S Usetheforce
quote:
The SEC.........
wait...what?
15/20 YEARS IT'S TOP HALF IN THE CONFERENCE, YA'ERD?!?!?!?!
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Show me another team with that consistency and I will take down your idoitic statement.
This post was edited on 3/16/09 at 8:33 am
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:34 am to L S Usetheforce
what idiotic statement?
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Nevermind you still believe Matt Jones is one of the top 20 athletes in the SEC's history.
Posted on 3/16/09 at 8:39 am to Catman88
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Uhh Tepper NEVER had a white drop Linebacker! Dunson was NOT the drop Linebacker he was the INSIDE linebacker unless you are calling Jamal Hill white?
don't you love hot carl's revisionist history?
Posted on 3/16/09 at 9:00 am to TheDoc
People at LSU are going to hate Chavis after the next three years. He's known for soft coverage and lack of game time adjustments. As for his national ranking,
1999: 11th
2000: 13th
2001: 13th
2002: 5th
2003: 22nd
2004: 45th
2005: 7th
2006: 50th
2007: 70th
2008: 4th
My concern is his ability to adjust to all the new coaches in the SEC like UM, Saban, Petino and Kiffin. He hasn't fared well against Urban or Saban at all so far.

1999: 11th
2000: 13th
2001: 13th
2002: 5th
2003: 22nd
2004: 45th
2005: 7th
2006: 50th
2007: 70th
2008: 4th
My concern is his ability to adjust to all the new coaches in the SEC like UM, Saban, Petino and Kiffin. He hasn't fared well against Urban or Saban at all so far.
Posted on 3/16/09 at 9:01 am to BIG MAC
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BIG MAC
Compare the results of Chavis vs Tepper.
Posted on 3/16/09 at 9:02 am to L S Usetheforce
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Nevermind you still believe Matt Jones is one of the top 20 athletes in the SEC's history.
still makes me chuckle
Posted on 3/16/09 at 9:17 am to BIG MAC
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Please convince me I am wrong.
You are obviously under the mistaken idea that we care if you are wrong.
Posted on 3/16/09 at 9:56 am to Hot Carl
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All schemes drop LBs into zone coverage sometimes.
most of the also require LB's to, dare I say, read and react...
Posted on 3/16/09 at 11:42 am to ForeLSU
Why would anyone listen to a guy who's sig quote is from the f'n "Bachelor"?
Posted on 3/16/09 at 11:47 am to Suntiger
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He hasn't fared well against Urban or Saban at all so far.
what defense played Florida better than UT last year?
Posted on 3/16/09 at 12:12 pm to L S Usetheforce
The concept is similar. If you don't want to shift to nickle as much, then you need a LB that can cover. However, this is where the similarity ends. While this is similar, Chavis has proved his scheme works, while Tepper sucked wind. As they say, it's all in the presentation.
Posted on 3/16/09 at 12:19 pm to Hot Carl
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one of Tepper's problems was that he dropped big, slow, white LBs
Not true-they were deceptively fast. And heady.
Posted on 3/16/09 at 12:50 pm to BIG MAC
quote:Doesn't really sound like it at all. Tepper's scheme was not about simply dropping a linebacker back into coverage, it involved the same "Drop Linebacker" having responsibility for pass coverage, pass rush and run contain on the same play. There's not a lot of guys -- LBs or otherwise -- who can cover a receiver AND rush the QB at the same time. I guess Simeon Rice and Kevin Hardy could (almost the only times Tepper's defense was successful anywhere was when he had one of those two guys), but guys like that are fairly rare.
See attached article from The Advocate. Linebacker changes sound alot like Lou Tepper's awful failure know as the "drop linebacker".
Besides, the article does not actually say that the LBs will be dropping into coverage every time they run out a 3 or 4 WR set, and it doesn't say that we will keep all our LBs in there when teams go with 5 WRs. If there is a 4 WR set, we may go man coverage on all four with our DBs and blitz the LBs. We don't know.
All I know is that Tepper had two years in the SEC, and Chavis has had 15-20 as a DC. And I'm not sure Chavis has ever had a defense as bad as the best one Tepper had at LSU.
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