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Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:50 pm to Powerman
Yeh and Charles Scott was cut by maybe the worse clock manager in the NFL
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:52 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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You think they don't know a loaded question when they hear one?
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:54 pm to stapuffmarshy
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rolleyes:
of course you KNOW this
This team is winning despite the HC.
This post was edited on 10/4/10 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:56 pm to therocketscientist
Why do you find it so hard to believe? Because you don't support him? Are you there with him often enough to justify that opinion like those players? Those players spend a huge chunk of their lives around him and his staff. He has promised mothers that he would look after their sons. And he makes good on those promises. And he continues to get great talented young men to come into this program. That's not by accident. He doesn't do everything right, but he does a helluva lot more right than wrong. Those players go to battle for their coach, play their hearts out, and come out victorious many more times than not.
So quit being a little punk, and get behind this coach and team, or you don't deserve to wear the purple and gold.
So quit being a little punk, and get behind this coach and team, or you don't deserve to wear the purple and gold.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 8:59 pm to stapuffmarshy
quote:spinmeister
served as a learning tool and actually allowed us to avoid having the same result two times in a row.''
Posted on 10/4/10 at 9:06 pm to tntigger
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Would any school hire him right now? Bcs schools upper tier?
Upper tier?
No, definitely no.
Posted on 10/4/10 at 9:33 pm to TigerNlc
this board (positigers) sucks beyond tiny straws. people are sucking lead pipes filled with corroded metals.
This post was edited on 10/4/10 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 10/5/10 at 3:16 am to Dav
Ron Zook was loved and supported by his many of his players also.
Some wanted a transfer after he was dismissed. Others resented the new staff and rebelled against Meyer.
No doubt that replacing Zook with Meyer was a great decision!
Jeremy Foley is oft quoted as saying "that which must be done eventually must be done NOW". He didn't wait to pull the trigger on Zook. He knew it had to be done eventually.
Some wanted a transfer after he was dismissed. Others resented the new staff and rebelled against Meyer.
No doubt that replacing Zook with Meyer was a great decision!
Jeremy Foley is oft quoted as saying "that which must be done eventually must be done NOW". He didn't wait to pull the trigger on Zook. He knew it had to be done eventually.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:00 am to TigerNlc
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Byrd is my least favorite LSU player ever.
Co-Sign.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:02 am to nwaLSUfan
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Players stick by Miles
people are saying "what else would they say in public" ...ummmm how about nothing at all. If they truly thought that miles was a shitty coach they wouldnt comment on it, why would they lie?
Do you follow football much?
Especially in college, you always stick up for your team/coaches. if you say "no comment", it's implied that you're not sticking up for your coach. If you do that in PUBLIC, that is not good for your team. THAT is why you stick up for him no matter what in public.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:04 am to bayou2003
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Players should not be tweeting shite like that. He needs to stfu
Not a player.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 4:05 am to bayoubengal4life
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If Charles Scott was more worried about football and less worried about partying, maybe he would actually be in the NFL right now and not have enough time to tweet about the state of the program. Les Miles isn't the reason Chuck didn't succeed, Bogey's is.
That literally has zero to do with this discussion.
Completely irrelevant.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 5:31 am to shel311
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Byrd.
Do not re-write LSU history:
Never forget: Byrd was crucial to our NC !!
Byrd was a very clutch WR, who caught some of the most important passes in history of LSU football during our NC year !!
Posted on 10/5/10 at 5:41 am to shel311
No doubt that Miles is a good man and he runs a clean program. The issue is whether he is actually a good coach. His record says he is, but what the fans see regarding clock management issues points out a very clear deficiency. No arguing that point. And a deficiency that should be easy to fix, So why has it not been fixed????
The players support Miles, or so we hear. They think fans are being too critical (a possibility). But if the players want to support Miles and get the criticism off of him then they should start playing without having 8-10 penalties per game. Do you think that would help get the heat off of Miles???
Miles coaching style is what could be the problem. He wants to be a coach as well as a buddy. Sometimes you can not always be the players buddy. Sometimes you got to tear some arse when it is appropriate and called for.Sometimes you have to bench starting players when they do not perform. Tough love - just like what it takes to be a good father.
I will give you a perfect example of extremes in coaching. Saban vs Miles. When players screw up on the field, Saban meets them at the sidelines and tears that arse up. The p´layers definitely know that they have messed up. Miles on the other hand very seldom , almost never, does this. But Sabans team has looked better in virtually every game it has played this year. They dont commit many penalties. They show continued improvement.
Can anyone say the same about our Tigers? I think we have seen minor improvement but that is all that can be said. Except for our defense, which is lights out and handled by Chavis
Maybe we are all too hard on Miles but much of the criticism is well deserved. We see a team that is struggling. We see little improvement each week. We see large numbers of penalties. We see clock management issues that never seem to get fixed.
On the other hand, we are 5-0 and have a great recruiter as head coach with a prospective talent laden class coming in.
We are definitely in a conundrum. But something has got to change.
The players support Miles, or so we hear. They think fans are being too critical (a possibility). But if the players want to support Miles and get the criticism off of him then they should start playing without having 8-10 penalties per game. Do you think that would help get the heat off of Miles???
Miles coaching style is what could be the problem. He wants to be a coach as well as a buddy. Sometimes you can not always be the players buddy. Sometimes you got to tear some arse when it is appropriate and called for.Sometimes you have to bench starting players when they do not perform. Tough love - just like what it takes to be a good father.
I will give you a perfect example of extremes in coaching. Saban vs Miles. When players screw up on the field, Saban meets them at the sidelines and tears that arse up. The p´layers definitely know that they have messed up. Miles on the other hand very seldom , almost never, does this. But Sabans team has looked better in virtually every game it has played this year. They dont commit many penalties. They show continued improvement.
Can anyone say the same about our Tigers? I think we have seen minor improvement but that is all that can be said. Except for our defense, which is lights out and handled by Chavis
Maybe we are all too hard on Miles but much of the criticism is well deserved. We see a team that is struggling. We see little improvement each week. We see large numbers of penalties. We see clock management issues that never seem to get fixed.
On the other hand, we are 5-0 and have a great recruiter as head coach with a prospective talent laden class coming in.
We are definitely in a conundrum. But something has got to change.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 5:54 am to jimbeaux82
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regarding clock management issues points out a very clear deficiency. No arguing that point. And a deficiency that should be easy to fix, So why has it not been fixed????
Maybe Les has slight Attention Deficit Disorder, and is not good dealing with details involving fast decisions, and might have trouble thinking about several ideas/variables simultaneously...
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When players screw up on the field, Saban meets them at the sidelines and tears that arse up. Miles on the other hand very seldom , almost never, does this.
True
(although Miles will occasionally get in face of non-minority players...most other players just get "hand clap" from Les after frick up)
Posted on 10/5/10 at 6:05 am to 1999
Players are young...they judge by "like-dislike" not by job performance..besides
some - can not separate the two.
some - may feel they have to.
some - can not separate the two.
some - may feel they have to.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 6:11 am to aglandry
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If you want to know about a horse, just check his record in the Daily Racing Form.Same thing goes with a coach.
Having used a racing form to predict the winner is something I have done many a time only to go home broke. Predicting the behavior of anythng other than planetary mocement and electron-proton interaction is always risky. Even physics breaks down at the quantum level.
Predicting human behavior with any degree of certainty is a turn of the dice at best. Somehow or other he has to pull this team and its coaches together to win. My "prediction" is we play better this game than any other, and with Lee, but we probably still lose. We will lose and win some in the upcoming schedule. Miles stays and Crowton goes. Recruiting takes a minor hit because many of the players will come here because of a situation or playing time, not exactly because of Miles. Gonzales gets the offense. The temperature of the hot seat rises, and we play better next year. Nothing is finalized or done, and college football is every bit as emotional as high school ball. Tennessee proved that. They had no business on the field with us, yet they really "won" the game. There are factors beyond our control, and only the insiders know.
Jim Mora said something years ago when talking to a reporter during the press conference after a game. "You don't know, and you're never going to know." Unless one of the people on this rant is an assistant coach or a player, everybody's opinion is just that, and opinion and conjecture. And if you are associated with the team, I suggest you get off. REading all of this stuff has to drag you down and mess with your head.
I think we are a better team tha we have shown, and I think we will improve.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 6:15 am to Dav
I don't think its very surprising that players who thought enough of Miles to comit 4 years of their lives to playing for him at LSU would support him. Many of these players were very highly recruited and could have played for a number of high profile schools. They saw something in Miles and LSU that they liked and came here - investing not only their college career but their future pro hopes (of course only a chosen few will achieve that). I don't know why people would think they would turn on him and are only being held back by fear.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 6:17 am to Methuselah
Good point, lost on most here, but still a good point.
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