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re: Pitching Rotation Set for UGA Series
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:27 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:27 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
I have no problem with them starting Coleman in Game 3.
I think he's the best option. Hope he steps up.
I think he's the best option. Hope he steps up.
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:30 pm to PoppaD
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So UGA is conceding against Skenes by starting with a freshman that has pitched 17 innings.
This is weird because one more loss most likely ends their post-season chances.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:33 pm to WaterLink
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It's hard to do that in a regional because if you throw junk vs Skenes then you're in the loser bracket and you'll end up having to use your ace there vs someone else other than LSU.
The 2 and 3 seeds are going to have to use their ace in that game so whoever Skenes faces in the marble game will be the other teams second best guy.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:34 pm to SoloTiger
I would love to see Coleman go 60 pitches Saturday and then maybe give him a full break during the SEC tournament or use him in relief and get him ready for game 1 of the regional.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:36 pm to Walker wild tiger
This strategy is not the reason LSU lost the series to Auburn or State.
In the last two Sundays you go down 6 runs in the first inning because your starter and first guy out the pen can’t get an out then you blow a 13-4 lead the following Sunday.
The starting pitcher in those games for the other team were irrelevant.
In the last two Sundays you go down 6 runs in the first inning because your starter and first guy out the pen can’t get an out then you blow a 13-4 lead the following Sunday.
The starting pitcher in those games for the other team were irrelevant.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:36 pm to CalRipkenJr
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He's not quite Floyd...1/2 the walks but fewer K's...nothing special
Have you watched him pitch lately?
He’s given up 9 ER in 32 2/3 innings since becoming a starter and its all against SEC teams
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:38 pm to Broski
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In a super regional, you can't afford to punt on a game when 2 losses ends your season.
The goal of a super regional is to win 2 games. If LSU is your opponent, objectively the 2 easiest games to win are the 2 that Skenes doesn't start. And using your best 2 pitchers in those 2 games gives you the best chance to win those 2 games, which leaves you pitching your 3rd best starter against Skenes.
I'm not sure why people say it's "ballsy" or "can't afford to punt a game" when it's the path that gives you the best odds to win the series and advance. I'm basically expecting any opponent we face in a Super to do this. Especially after these last 2 SEC series has shown it can work against us
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:39 pm to geauxtigers33
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The 2 and 3 seeds are going to have to use their ace in that game so whoever Skenes faces in the marble game will be the other teams second best guy.
Plenty of 2 seeds pitch down in that matchup. They know the only path to winning the regional is having your ace go in the winners bracket day 2.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:41 pm to WaterLink
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Especially after these last 2 SEC series has shown it can work against us
LSU LOSING THESE SERIES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STARTING PITCHER ROTATION.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:42 pm to frogpond11
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This kid Jarvis Evans went 5.1 IP with 7 Ks only giving up 1 run against TEN 2 weekends ago too. Not sure what happened against MIS last weekend, went only 2.1 IP and didn't give up much, but short outing.
I remember watching that Tennessee performance, I think how well he did came out of nowhere.
The announcers alluded to that at least, and I want to say even Strickland said as much during the in-game interview.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:43 pm to skullhawk
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Plenty of 2 seeds pitch down in that matchup. They know the only path to winning the regional is having your ace go in the winners bracket day 2.
So is the thought they are going to save their ace for the losers bracket game after the marble game to avoid Skenes?
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:47 pm to geauxtigers33
Against MSU I can see that argument, we lit their starter up but the bullpen blew it. Against Auburn I'm not so sure. Yes Little and Herring walked everyone and their mother in the 1st inning but we only scored 2 runs, so I think you have to consider it was at least somewhat of a factor.
And then there's just the overall strategy independent of these last 2 weekends, where the 2 non-Skenes games are the most winnable so pitching your best 2 guys in those games is your best bet.
And then there's just the overall strategy independent of these last 2 weekends, where the 2 non-Skenes games are the most winnable so pitching your best 2 guys in those games is your best bet.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:48 pm to geauxtigers33
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So is the thought they are going to save their ace for the losers bracket game after the marble game to avoid Skenes?
No. I'm just saying, I've watched way too many of these regionals. Plenty of 2 seeds hold their ace in game 1. It's not strictly a luxury the 1 seed takes advantage of.
I don't anticipate any team throwing anyone but their best available pitcher against Skenes in the postseason.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:48 pm to geauxtigers33
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LSU LOSING THESE SERIES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STARTING PITCHER ROTATION.
Had Miss St pitched Cade Smith in Game 1, LSU would have won Games 1 and 2.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:49 pm to PoppaD
They arent pitching backwards morons. Goldstein and Sullivan have flip flopped a bit between Saturdays and Sundays.
But they think they've found something in Evans who's getting the Friday night start. He had his coming out party 2 weeks ago vs Tennessee. Goldstein got hurt in the 1st and Evans came in and went 5 innings before running into trouble but still getting the win. He had another good outing in relief last weekend and had a decent midweek outing a couple weeks ago. He's got good stuff and won't be a slouch. Their usual Friday guy, Kolten Smith has not been good so this is more a changing of the guard than pitching backwards
But they think they've found something in Evans who's getting the Friday night start. He had his coming out party 2 weeks ago vs Tennessee. Goldstein got hurt in the 1st and Evans came in and went 5 innings before running into trouble but still getting the win. He had another good outing in relief last weekend and had a decent midweek outing a couple weeks ago. He's got good stuff and won't be a slouch. Their usual Friday guy, Kolten Smith has not been good so this is more a changing of the guard than pitching backwards
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:52 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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They arent pitching backwards morons. Goldstein and Sullivan have flip flopped a bit between Saturdays and Sundays. But they think they've found something in Evans who's getting the Friday night start. He had his coming out party 2 weeks ago vs Tennessee. Goldstein got hurt in the 1st and Evans came in and went 5 innings before running into trouble but still getting the win. He had another good outing in relief last weekend and had a decent midweek outing a couple weeks ago. He's got good stuff and won't be a slouch. Their usual Friday guy, Kolten Smith has not been good so this is more a changing of the guard than pitching backwards
This makes sense because they absolutely need to win all 3 games
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:54 pm to WaterLink
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And then there's just the overall strategy independent of these last 2 weekends, where the 2 non-Skenes games are the most winnable so pitching your best 2 guys in those games is your best bet.
I get it the best strategy to take 2 of 3 from LSU. I have a hard time thinking the starting pitchers for the Saturday and Sunday games the last two weekends are why LSU lost both series.
The problem with this strategy in Supers is you aren’t guaranteed that 3rd game. Let’s say you save your ace for game 2. This lineup has proven all year that even if they aren’t necessarily hitting a starter they can drive up the pitch count to where they can only pitch 4-5 innings then they feast on middle relief pitching.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 2:54 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
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I remember watching that Tennessee performance, I think how well he did came out of nowhere.
It was pretty unreal. The starter got hurt on the first pitch of the game and this kid comes in and gets into the 6th like a seasoned veteran. He had them tied in knots too.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:04 pm to Yeti_Chaser
Thanks for your astute analysis. I've watched zero Georgia baseball, hence the question.
However, I don't appreciate you calling names young man. Your mother should have taught you manners.
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They arent pitching backwards morons.
However, I don't appreciate you calling names young man. Your mother should have taught you manners.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:07 pm to geauxtigers33
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Let’s say you save your ace for game 2. This lineup has proven all year that even if they aren’t necessarily hitting a starter they can drive up the pitch count to where they can only pitch 4-5 innings then they feast on middle relief pitching.
If they save their ace for game 2 and still lose then you just tip your cap. If pitching him in the Floyd game still results in a loss, odds are pitching him in the Skenes game would have resulted in a loss, and pitching anyone else against Floyd also results in a loss if LSU was just mashing it all over the yard regardless. I'd rest easy knowing I did all I could to try to win the series and just got beat by a better team.
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