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PFF Grades and stats for every LSU incoming Transfer
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:10 pm
Zy Alexander: 80 (27TOT 3INT 2TD 4PBU)
Duce chestnut: 76.3 (40TOT 1.5TFL 1Int 1TD)
Bradyn swinson: 73.4 (8TOT 1.5Tfl)
Denver Harris: 71.4 (14TOT 3PBU)
Omar Speights: 69.9 (83TOT 8Tfl)
Jordan Jefferson: 67.4 (30TOT 9.5tfl 3Sk)
Ovie Oghoufo: 64.8, 70.7 RunD (53TOT 7.5Tfl 1.5Sk)
Paris Shand: 62.4 (23TOT 2.5Sk)
JK Johnson: 57.4 (20TOT)
Aaron Anderson: DNP
For reference a grade of 60 is considered "average"
Duce chestnut: 76.3 (40TOT 1.5TFL 1Int 1TD)
Bradyn swinson: 73.4 (8TOT 1.5Tfl)
Denver Harris: 71.4 (14TOT 3PBU)
Omar Speights: 69.9 (83TOT 8Tfl)
Jordan Jefferson: 67.4 (30TOT 9.5tfl 3Sk)
Ovie Oghoufo: 64.8, 70.7 RunD (53TOT 7.5Tfl 1.5Sk)
Paris Shand: 62.4 (23TOT 2.5Sk)
JK Johnson: 57.4 (20TOT)
Aaron Anderson: DNP
For reference a grade of 60 is considered "average"
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:14 pm to Geauxldrush
How do these compare to some of the existing players we have? (Is it an upgrade or meh)
Depth aside
Depth aside
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:17 pm to Geauxldrush
How the f is Harris at a 71 grade when he had one of the lowest completion % against him in country 
I really don't understand their grading system.
I really don't understand their grading system.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:19 pm to deuce985
Maybe Thunderbird can come and chime in to let us know
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:21 pm to Captain Crown
They probably looking at something like run defense too in the calculations. Johnson so low makes me think that because his issue right now is he's not very physical or a good tackler. He did have 1 bad game though getting burnt toast but he's a young CB.
Swinson so high is surprising. I saw a stat on him that said he had a 30% success rate on pass rush downs. He might be a sleeper.
Swinson so high is surprising. I saw a stat on him that said he had a 30% success rate on pass rush downs. He might be a sleeper.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 1:29 pm to Tshiz
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How do these compare to some of the existing players we have?
Micah Baskerville: 70.7
Jarrick Bernard-Converse: 76.9
Mekhi Wingo: 78.5
Saivion Jones: 69.1
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:17 pm to deuce985
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How the f is Harris at a 71 grade when he had one of the lowest completion % against him in country
Harris had pretty limited stats. He was only ever on the field for 98 total coverage snaps, gave up 4 catches on 11 targets for 28 yards, 1 TD and 2 PBU. Hard to really care about comparing him to the rest of the country when he didnt get many snaps to begin with.
Still a 71 grade is pretty good, it was the 2nd highest grade of anyone who played on the Aggy defense last season. The highest of ANY of their 5-star freshmen.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:16 pm to Geauxldrush
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Mekhi Wingo: 78.5
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:29 pm to MrWiseGuy
Why is that funny?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 3:41 pm to MrWiseGuy
That's actually a high grade on Pff. If you're approaching 80 you're very good.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:32 pm to emanresu
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Why is that funny?
Because Wingo is an AA
How his grade is sub 80 is ridiculous
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:33 pm to deuce985
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That's actually a high grade on Pff. If you're approaching 80 you're very good.
Then they need to adjust their scale
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:50 pm to Geauxldrush
Just add 15 if you want to read them like HS recruiting grades
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:54 pm to MrWiseGuy
I doubt the higher dts are much more than that
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:54 pm to deuce985
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How the f is Harris at a 71 grade when he had one of the lowest completion % against him in country
They also grade them on plays where the ball didn’t get thrown their way. So, if he blew a coverage, but the QB didn’t see it, that’s still a negatively graded play. Similarly, it’s still a negative play if he gets beat, but the WR drops the ball. Then there are penalties, missed tackles, being out of position on run plays, etc.
All in all, a 71 for a FR a with limited playing time is pretty good.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 5:59 pm to Geauxldrush
With the grade of Alexander that tells me that we may not have to rely on sage Ryan to play nickel and can play brooks at one of the saftey spots.
That’s my main worry is having to rely on him if he hasn’t improved much. If he has improved then we may have guys better than burns when we move them around. It’s gonna be good to have 3 legit corners that can plug and play or at least push whoever beats them out
We may go out there with Harris chestnut and Alexander. Then we could play brooks and burns or brooks and Ryan at saftey . That’s if no freshman beats them out .
I think another year in the weight room and brooks will be a monster, he’s already super aggressive
That’s my main worry is having to rely on him if he hasn’t improved much. If he has improved then we may have guys better than burns when we move them around. It’s gonna be good to have 3 legit corners that can plug and play or at least push whoever beats them out
We may go out there with Harris chestnut and Alexander. Then we could play brooks and burns or brooks and Ryan at saftey . That’s if no freshman beats them out .
I think another year in the weight room and brooks will be a monster, he’s already super aggressive
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:25 pm to deuce985
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really don't understand their grading system
I don't either. I think it's overrated AF. They use nebulous terms like "advanced metrics" and "proprietary algorithm" and people cream their pants
Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:45 am to Tigerpride18
I really hope Sage takes the next step. As of right now he's a bust unfortunately. He still has time to develop but man has he been a huge disappointment. People were saying it in HS he was way overrated on ranking and they were right that he wasn't even the best S in LA in that class.
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:46 pm to deuce985
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I really hope Sage takes the next step. As of right now he's a bust unfortunately. He still has time to develop but man has he been a huge disappointment. People were saying it in HS he was way overrated on ranking and they were right that he wasn't even the best S in LA in that class.
He’s never going to be what we all hoped as a 5 star, but hopefully he can at least become a solid and consistent contributor. If he can grow to become as good as Ward did his last two seasons, that would be a big win at this point.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:17 am to deuce985
Sage has been very good against the run (74 PFF grade) he struggles in coverage. He’s a in the box safety not a nickel they gotta put him in a better position to succeed
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