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re: Peveto considers Cutrera a starter...
Posted on 8/9/08 at 1:27 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Posted on 8/9/08 at 1:27 pm to TulaneTigerFan
It's good to know that players don't improve any from their freshman year. We can write them off completely. Slow, I know you use a lot of quotes and stats to try and "lawyer" people. I think you don't know much about football other than the ESPN aspect. I mean schemes, X's, and O's.
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Posted on 8/9/08 at 2:56 pm to fossil
got any inside info about recruits uncle fossil?
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:00 pm to Bayoutigre
ive heard some good things about Cutrera this offseason
hopefully its not just coach talk
hopefully its not just coach talk
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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special teams was horrible and our LBs weren't that great when we weren't facing a traditional offense
And I suppose the fact that Alexander and RJF being out for most of the season and GD playing hurt had no bearing on how well our LBs played? How can you insinuate that this is all Peveto's fault? You talk like we had a terrible defense or something.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:17 pm to Lester Earl
Ok lets go back to Cutreras true freshman year when he was healthy. Beckwith got hurt in the beginning of the Bama game and Cutrera came in and led the team in tackles. He also started against Ole Miss that year and played a solid game. Not to mention he has being a mainstay on kickoff the whole time. He had a couple starts last year and in the Ole Miss start he had a big forced fumble on the goal line. The ones who say he is slow,etc. are basing it on the Ark game when he had a bad ankle, dislocated shoulder, and a dislocated elbow. EVERYbobdy played like shite in that game. But you naysayers know more than all these multi-millonaire coaches who recurited him.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:27 pm to fossil
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He also started against Ole Miss that year and played a solid game.
our D was not good that game against a shitty ole miss offense
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He had a couple starts last year and in the Ole Miss start he had a big forced fumble on the goal line.
ole miss ran all over us last year
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The ones who say he is slow,etc. are basing it on the Ark game when he had a bad ankle, dislocated shoulder, and a dislocated elbow.
he's not slow as much as he lacks agility
if he makes the wrong read, it's all over for jake, b/c he cannot recover and change directions well
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He also started against Ole Miss that year and played a solid game.
our D was not good that game against a shitty ole miss offense
Must have been Peveto and Cutrera's fault. How could 2 such pitiful people end up on a team like LSU?
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:33 pm to Cussian
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How could 2 such pitiful people end up on a team like LSU?
pitiful? who said that?
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if al woods were still 350+, we could run a 3-4 pretty easily with TJ and RJF at DE
rahim alem and beckwith at rush LB, and cut/riley
it'd be a nice look, and a nice way to combat spread option teams
Yeah, that would be a genius move given that we are loaded on the DL and thin at LB.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:38 pm to moneyg
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Yeah, that would be a genius move given that we are loaded on the DL and thin at LB.
well DL does little to help combat a spread or spread-option offense
it's a great way to even the talent gap
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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pitiful? who said that?
Um, lets see...
About Cut-
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cut hasn't shown any ability on the field for LSU in any game, and he looked HORRIBLE against arkansas
About Peveto-
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our D gave up a shitload of yards/points against non-traditional offenses
we shut down traditional offenses, esp if they had a mediocre/bad QB. and we faced a LOT of those last year
and as for special teams...
Some people might jump to the conclusion that you don't have much confidence in these 2 guys. Maybe I just missed the sarcasm in your typing.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:44 pm to Cussian
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Some people might jump to the conclusion that you don't have much confidence in these 2 guys
i don't
doesn't mean they're pitiful
look at the stats. our special teams sucked last year
and cut has looked bad a lot more than he's looked good in his time at LSU. and he's a junior this year
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Slowflow.. Ok you never had an answer for when he played virtually the entire Bama game his true freshman year and led the team in tackles. Let me guess..your gonna say Bama sucked that year. Look dude, this is the SEC and nobody sucks. ALL the teams have very good athletes. I dont think you have clue on how good of an athlete you have to be to play major college ball much less to play in the SEC. You just dont get it boy.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well DL does little to help combat a spread or spread-option offense
it's a great way to even the talent gap
I call bullshite on that seeing as to how you can't disrupt a spread unless you put pressure on the QB. With the kind of size and speed on our line, you can't afford not to play 4. Now other not so gifted teams should probably strip away a lineman against the spread, but not LSU.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:48 pm to fossil
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I dont think you have clue on how good of an athlete you have to be to play major college ball much less to play in the SEC.
but i do know what kind of athlete you need to be in order to be considered a good athlete in the SEC
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't
doesn't mean they're pitiful
look at the stats. our special teams sucked last year
and cut has looked bad a lot more than he's looked good in his time at LSU. and he's a junior this year
:icantbelieveiwastedthelast30minofmylifeargueingwithyou:
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
So sloflow are you saying that Saban and all the other big names in college football dont know an athlete when they see one? They just felt like making scholarship offers to him for the hell of it not b/c of his athletic ability.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well DL does little to help combat a spread or spread-option offense
it's a great way to even the talent gap
Exactly. The defense does not get to dictate to the offense what type of schemes will be used. It's the other way around. If the best offenses you face are the ones that find ways to circumvent great defensive lines, then you would be stupid to just inflexibly keep depending on your defensive line.
A second point: it's much easier to play linebacker in a 4-LB scheme. You don't have to be all-world to look like you're all-world in such a scheme.
A third point: in a 4-LB scheme, the OLBs are more easily played by S-LB tweeners, and we've got a couple of those just floating around who are underutilized right now.
A fourth point: even when LSU was fully healthy last year, the linebackers would often get lost on basic running plays. Remember the first quarter against Ohio State? I think we just need to face the fact that we can't continually ask each one of our linebackers to account for more responsibilities than they are capable of handling. They need help.
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:54 pm to Cussian
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I call bullshite on that seeing as to how you can't disrupt a spread unless you put pressure on the QB.
spread option takes away this by punishing teams who attack with their LBs and Ss with the option and screens
to beat the spread option you need man coverage by the CBs on all the WRs and lots of speed up the middle past the DL who will keep the play in front of them and not bite on playfakes.
the spread option neutralizes a pass rush and the middle of your DL by not running to the middle
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Now other not so gifted teams should probably strip away a lineman against the spread, but not LSU.
so our DTs are as fast as LBs and SSs now?
you'd be "stripping" 1 DT who isn't going to be a factor in the play 9/10 times anyway
Posted on 8/9/08 at 3:54 pm to Cussian
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I call bullshite on that seeing as to how you can't disrupt a spread unless you put pressure on the QB.
You don't know what you're talking about. You cannot go into a game planning to pressure a spread type offense using only 4 defensive linemen. It doesn't work.
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