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re: Perspective of Les MIles by "an old school Alabama fan"

Posted on 10/18/08 at 3:23 am to
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 3:23 am to
What did Michigan State do after Nick? I believe the coach who followed him is now your wr coach. He did NOT leave MSU better off.
LSU made Nick Saban as much if not more than he made LSU. I also believe the Dolphins had the first pick in the draft this past year so he didn't leave such a good mark there.
If you gave Nick a truth serum, he would tell you he wishes he were still the coach at LSU, and that leaving was a big mistake. I was at his bok signing shortly after his announcing that he took the Dolphins job...he was sad.
Les is not Nick, but neither is Nick Les. When Nick was in BR and E. Lansing he would only speak to a chosen few of the players...ask some of his ex-players...Les' players absolutely LOVE him...he is approachable unlike our last coach.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10715 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 5:47 am to
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And in addition to the luck of the other teams losing that final weekend as well, you had NUMEROUS games that went down to the wire and you guys could have EASILY lost them. True, the better athletes won those games, but still. The Auburn game showed his TERRIBLE clock management skills, and you can't even argue that. The CB tips the ball up in the air and the game is over, Auburn wins. If JPW could have held on to the ball like a competent QB, we would have beaten you too.

In my opinion, Les Miles has had the superior athletes against EVERY TEAM he has faced since being at LSU. And he still loses 2 games per season? Don't get me wrong, that's a great record, but I could name several coaches that could put up those numbers with players as good as LSU has been fortunate enough to have.


First off if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. How many times do we have to go over the Auburns game. Are you retarded or something? It wasn't CLM's fault it was Flynn's fault for not getting the team up to the line of scrimmage. The play was called with plenty of time on the clock.

Please start naming the coaches that could do a better job at LSU than CLM. Nick Saban? CLM has never lost to an OOC team. Pete Carrol? I think the past two years puts him out. Stoops? CLM has never lost a BCS game how many has he? The Sweater? I think the blow out in the MNCG puts him out. You think of anyone else let me know.

Our talent hasn't been any better than USC, Tex OK, Fl, Georgia, Ohio St, or any of the other top ten recruiters, CLM has just coached them better.

You haters never mention what all LSU has been through since CLM has been here with all the damn hurricanes. I think he has done one hell of a job with this program.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 6:35 am to
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The Auburn game showed his TERRIBLE clock management skills, and you can't even argue that. The CB tips the ball up in the air and the game is over, Auburn wins.


I will argue that point into the ground and until you and I are piles of bones with worms coming out of us. That's bullshite. The play was given to Flynn with around 30 seconds left. The clock management part at that point was on him and the rest of the team. When Byrd caught the ball, there were 4 seconds left on the clock. LSU had a timeout ready to use if necessary. The clock operator let the clock run down to 1 second for some unknown reason. But, had the pass been incomplete, there would have for damn sure been a review to see how much time was on the clock at that point. LSU kicks the field goal and wins the game still. That whole decision and playcall was brilliant. It gave LSU two chances to win the game instead of one.

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If JPW could have held on to the ball like a competent QB, we would have beaten you too.

If LSU would have held on to the ball and Flynn not thrown int's, Bama would have never been in the position to win the game in the first place.

Posted by Section28
Right Here
Member since Dec 2004
2133 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 7:19 am to
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Well, let me be the first to say it.

Nick Saban is 'Bamas version of the 'Chicago Bears' Dave Wannstedt.

When Saban got a phone call from 'Bama Athletic Director Mal Moore in 2006, he must have splashed cold water on his face, looked in the mirror, and said, "I must be the luckiest man on the face of the earth."

I know that is what I would have thought if I had just come off 9–7 and 6–10 records in the previous two seasons at Miami, and then received a phone call offering me the Head Coaching job at 'Bama.

Then he must have smiled when it sank in that he was being handed a team that had more great athletes than any other team in the country—all thanks to 'Bama's previous coach, Mike Shula.

He must have felt like the kid who drives a Ford Pinto, being told his uncle Mike just left the keys to a Ferrari in his will!
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Posted by jacksimmons2000
Savannah, GA
Member since Nov 2006
778 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 7:33 am to
JTALL - I just can't help but think you are wrong about everything.

LSU doesn't have the best talent. They have great SEC talent, but they are consistently behind Florida and Georgia in recruiting. Look at the recruiting polls. LSU does not finish #1 every year. In fact, LSU typically finishes in between #6-#15.

Miles won a National Championship with an average QB and an average, but gutsy tailback. The defense was solid, but beat up much of the year.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 7:42 am to
I suspect that if we lose to SC this guy will appear to have much more incite on the situation.

"Miles threw down the gauntlet several times this week, saying that every player’s job is on the line and that he won’t hesitate to pull the trigger on personnel changes."

I wonder if that applies to coaches as well.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62287 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 7:45 am to
I always love the ifs. IF JPW had held on to the ball, etc. The person using this type of argument is basically saying "if we had scored more points, we would have won." It's so stupid.
Posted by Doc Feelgood
Hermitage, TN
Member since Sep 2007
1883 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:26 am to
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Nicky is very good


He is a overrated gameday coach, see Arkansas and Iowa last second losses.
Posted by Doc Feelgood
Hermitage, TN
Member since Sep 2007
1883 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:30 am to
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LSU made Nick Saban as much if not more than he made LSU


The state of Louisiana's instate talent made Nick Saban.
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:32 am to
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Then he must have smiled when it sank in that he was being handed a team that had more great athletes than any other team in the country—all thanks to 'Bama's previous coach, Mike Shula.
This is an absolutely stupid and rantarded post. I hope this was sarcasm.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:34 am to
Any team that finishes top ten in recruiting has loads of talent coming in.

LSU is this year where Florida was last year (minus the fact that Florida had a Heisman QB), and where Georgia will be next year. It's all cyclical.
Posted by Doc Feelgood
Hermitage, TN
Member since Sep 2007
1883 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:34 am to
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even the most diehard LSU fan has to think how LUCKY Les Miles was last year to win the national championship. You guys literally backed into the game after losing during the last week of the regular season.


Then I guess ULM was "LUCKY" to BEAT mighty Nick Saban's Alabama Crimson Tide?!?

Gumps...
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:39 am to
When a Bama fan mentions the word "luck" in regards to LSU winning (as though it's the only reason), I roll my eyes. How many nights did I sit in Tiger Stadium seeing LSU lose to Bama because of some luck play?

Hell, against Georgia Bama was real lucky on a couple of their int's. A pass is thrown and hits the receiver in the numbers and it deflects off right into the bread basket of a defender that wasn't even expecting it. That's not luck...
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:42 am to
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He is a overrated gameday coach, see Arkansas and Iowa last second losses.
Hmm...Funny how when players under Les screw up, ie Flynn not getting the team to the line against AU, you say it is there fault not Les', but when the players missed assignments on a last second throw against Iowa it is Saban's fault. How about the Clemson or Georgia wins? OU win while at LSU? Was all that poor coaching? How about Les' 2 losses a year? I guess that's on the players since it's Les right? You guys rant and rave about Saban's "3 loss a year" avg. What about Les' "2 loss a year" avg? Has Les ever had a 1-loss season? Not a lot of difference there except that Saban was rebuilding a team and Les is maintaining one. Bottom line is this, they are both very good coaches. You don't get paid the kind of money these guys do and not be.
Posted by jacksimmons2000
Savannah, GA
Member since Nov 2006
778 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:43 am to
The LUCK idea is really weak. Any team that gets into the BCS Championship game was lucky. The system requires it. LSU had one loss in 2003, and two in 2007, but gets in.

Auburn goes undefeated in the toughest conference in the country and gets left out.

Georgia has one loss in the toughest conference in the country and gets left out.

Miles had one bad coaching outing last year: Arkansas. He got away from the run and relied too heavily on the passing game.

His defensive was a bit beat up that game, but they played hard. Still, sending in a safety who didn't know what was going on, on 4th down when Arkansas had to get 17 yards for a 1st was a disaster. He had a time out and needed to call it to get everyone set. That confused safety gave up the first. That was coaching. That was the game.
Posted by floridachad
orlando
Member since Sep 2008
205 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:48 am to
LSU VS Bama ...this shite will get decided on the field...
Posted by KPCrimson
Dothan, AL
Member since Jun 2008
2103 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:48 am to
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The LUCK idea is really weak.
I agree 100%. Scoring on a 75 yard hail mary when you qb can only throw it 45 is lucky. Putting a game in the hands of your NFL caliber players is not lucky. Some of Les' calls are risky at times but what I don't understand about the luck argument is that many of the 4th down calls Les goes for are no-brainers to me. He's not going for a lot of 4th and 8's from his own 25 or anything. Most everything is 4th and a foot on the opponents 45. What's not to go for? Anyways RTR and I can't wait for November 8.
Posted by tigerbill002
Member since May 2008
2317 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:50 am to
Ignore JTALL guys, hes just a flamer. Every single post he makes is just to incite the masses here. I think he is really Trio of Lights with a new name. Obviously the writer of the article cant see very far out of those crimson goggles. True NS did alot here at LSU that I know I am grateful for. LM has continued that success and improved it. I could probably make 20 posts here arguing the comments made by this bamatard writer, but you cant argue with stupid.
Posted by Paul_LSU_passion
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2004
5469 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:53 am to
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He's not going for a lot of 4th and 8's from his own 25 or anything

Actually, Chris Jackson threw a pass on a fake punt against Arizona State on the LSU 5 yard line. That was the first game for Les Miles as an LSU coach.
Posted by jacksimmons2000
Savannah, GA
Member since Nov 2006
778 posts
Posted on 10/18/08 at 8:53 am to
Bama v LSU in Baton Rouge

I am an LSU fan, but at this point in the season, you have to like Bama in that game. Also remember, that series has favored the away team for about 40 years. Playing in BR probably benefits Bama.
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