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re: People who hated the O hire - thoughts now?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:47 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:47 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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We need to have a Venerables type that stays for his entire tenure
Has Venerable (sic) only been with one team his entire career? I didn't know that.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:48 pm to Stephen1979
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What would you call the people hoping he fails so they can be right? True LSU fans?
What would you call the people, if after 3-5 years of 8-4/9-3 or worse, would still be making excuses for him?
True LSU fans?
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:49 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Has he been here that long already? Damn where have the years gone
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:51 pm to Stephen1979
Point is, there are people on both extremes and most of us are neither.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:52 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Fair question. As I've noted, I was not in support of the hire. I'm hopeful but not ready to trust that all is well. If we continue with 8-4 seasons then no it's time to change. The whole point of firing miles was to compete again for championships. Can Orgeron do that? I'm skeptical but I don't see the point of forecasting such misery and minimizing all positive signs that may occur
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:54 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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What would you call the people, if after 3-5 years of 8-4/9-3 or worse, would still be making excuses for him?
True LSU fans?
In your crystal ball there aren't any better seasons, ever?
Do you totally rule out the possibility of 10 win seasons?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:55 pm to Stephen1979
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As I've noted, I was not in support of the hire. I'm hopeful but not ready to trust that all is well. If we continue with 8-4 seasons then no it's time to change. The whole point of firing miles was to compete again for championships. Can Orgeron do that? I'm skeptical but I don't see the point of forecasting such misery and minimizing all positive signs that may occur
Pretty much where I am. There’s reason for both skepticism and hope, and room for both here also. I’m avoiding forecasting, but I do have real concerns.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:55 pm to Stephen1979
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Well, as a long time reader of the board I decided to join the discussion.
But why specifically in October of last year after reading for so long?
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I don't, however, see the point in hoping he fails
I hope for nothing of the sort.
Which is why seeing LSU go 1-4 against SEC teams ranked at the end of the year since he took over has me so worried.
Not sure why that doesn’t bother so many others that claim to want to see LSU succeed.
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:56 pm to Gray Tiger
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In your crystal ball there aren't any better seasons, ever? Do you totally rule out the possibility of 10 win seasons?
This is disengenuous. A hypothetical is not a prediction. I don’t rule out 3-9 or a national championship. There’s just not enough data to know.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:58 pm to Stephen1979
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I don't see the point of forecasting such misery and minimizing all positive signs that may occur
But you’re ok with minimizing all negative signs that may occur?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:59 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Fair enough. Thanks for the civil reply.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:02 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Does it make me a bad fan to say I am proud and happy with the turnaround the staff made but still have concerns about the future?
Its a really wash of a season, there were some excellent moments, some bad moments.
It was a much weaker schedule compared to other years, I am optimistic but next year will be extremely telling IMO
We played a lot of really bad teams this year, we also beat a very good Auburn team but I still need to see more to safely say I am confident.
hopefully we can do well and build onto how we finished the year
Its a really wash of a season, there were some excellent moments, some bad moments.
It was a much weaker schedule compared to other years, I am optimistic but next year will be extremely telling IMO
We played a lot of really bad teams this year, we also beat a very good Auburn team but I still need to see more to safely say I am confident.
hopefully we can do well and build onto how we finished the year
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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i will say that the juco recruits are a good sign and if he wins 10 games next year ill be all in.
holy mother of god. rickdaddy has undergone a metamorphisis.
that was my first thought. then I remember our schedule next year. if we can win 10 games i'll damn sure be a believer.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:03 pm to Tiger Voodoo
No absolutely not. I'm good looking at the big picture. I think there's a lot to be optimistic about and personally, that's where I focus. I see lots of room for improvement as well and remain skeptical about some things. Time will tell. Could the year have been better? Sure. Could it have been a disaster? Easily. How recruiting finishes and what next season looks like will tell a lot. In the meantime, I choose not to be miserable about what could have been or what might be. I'll be hopeful until there's reason not to be.
As for why I joined in October of 2016, well that's when I returned home following months of cancer treatment and I thought I'd talk LSU sports with other fans
As for why I joined in October of 2016, well that's when I returned home following months of cancer treatment and I thought I'd talk LSU sports with other fans
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:05 pm to Stephen1979
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What would you call the people hoping he fails so they can be right?
True LSU fans?
ive yet to see a lsu fan thats cheering against lsu so they can be right about O. no real lsu fan would do that.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:05 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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which everyone knows we are a better team and that shouldn't have happened.
ah so if we use that rule, do we take away the Auburn win?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:05 pm to UpToPar
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I think all he has to do is get a better QB and rest of the pieces of puzzle will fall into place.
-- Every LSU fan for the last 10 years.
Things went downhill after Miles suspended ryan perrilloux...
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:06 pm to siliconvalleytiger
It's still a very lazy hire. This year's schedule ended up being very easy. Let's see how he looks after next year's schedule. My guess is 5-7 wins next year.
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