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re: Paying Players Will End College Football. True or False?

Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:50 am to
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:50 am to
They are already paid now. They get a free $100k or more education, room and board for free. That is their payment.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13020 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:53 am to
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They are already paid now. They get a free $100k or more education, room and board for free. That is their payment.



So do people on academic scholarships yet they are not forbidden to make money off their own likeness or ideas.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2141 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:02 am to
Way to broad for them to get paid.


Beach volleyball, water polo, football, golf, swimming, etc etc etc. The pay plan would be too extreme.

Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4338 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:06 am to
They are already paid.. at least $50k and probably more like $200k in kind for each year. Reality is that about 3 to 5 players on the top teams are significantly adding value. And even this is on a short list of the absolutely top teams. Even on the top teams 60 or 70 players are replacement level players as MLB evaluates WAR.

Anyway what is the point.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:29 am to
Look, just make it so there is no age restriction to go to nfl. If you want to go get paid and die, then by all means go try it, if not you need to go to college or some other crap league in the meantime for 3 years. No exceptions, paying players in college will be the worst decision ever made by the ncaa if they do it.
Posted by LegendaryOutlaw
Member since Apr 2019
285 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:30 am to
Yes, it would. There’s a perceived difference in college and pro, love of the game vs. a job. As incorrect as that is, if you have two pro leagues, one where the players aren’t as good, what tends to happen to the lesser product? Then, what’s to stop other entities from starting teams? It’s a rabbit hole, a bad one.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:46 am to
Paying players is certainly not the panacea that many folks think. Would it eliminate under the table payments? Not likely. Boosters will just add to the pot of money, and the same problems that we have now with cheating will continue.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21061 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:46 am to
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They are already paid now. They get a free $100k or more education, room and board for free. That is their payment


Alright, let's say there is a student attending LSU that can really sing. She has plenty of scholarships that cover tuition, room and board, meal plan, books. She participates in the LSU choir (assuming that's a thing). Some bar wants to hire her to sing, a couple wants to hire her to sing at their wedding, a band wants to pay her to open for them at their show. She can do all this, and make money doing it right? It makes perfect sense. She can sing, and people are willing to pay her to sing, so she should be able to do this right?


So why is it illegal for a football player to be hired to advertise something, or sign something, or teach a football camp?

For about the hundredth time.....NOBODY IS WANTING THE SCHOOLS TO PAY PLAYERS!!!!! It's not even possible.
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
6501 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:59 am to
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You're not for paying people who produce millions of dollars in revenue? And why would it be over?


#1 a lot of great players get paid under the table. Don’t be naive. They are well taken care of.

#2 those same players and more get a full ride to a 4-year university. If going pro doesn’t work out, you have a degree to fall back on with no student loan debt.

#3 can you imagine if a player is paid by one school and enters the transfer portal because another school offers more? College football would become free agency with no contracts.
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:45 am to
No, it would not end college football! There is so much money is college football that it is financially safe for many years to come. I think players should get paid, but the question is how do you accomplish that? I don't have an answer for that, but if the coaches can makes millions on the back of these young players, the players also deserve a piece of the pie. Let's face it, without players, college football is nothing!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:07 am to
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You're not for paying people who produce millions of dollars in revenue?

So, they're playing now for no pay while generating millions of dollars for the university. Why should the university pay them?

If I had a business that had 100 volunteers working 4-year internships for room and board and they were generating huge profits for me, why would I decide to give them a percentage? Just to cut into my profit margin?

I don't think that's how America works.

You compensate labor just enough that they provide you with the maximum profit.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:59 pm to
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You're not for paying people who produce millions of dollars in revenue?


They get paid $30K a year (or more). It's called tuition, books, lodging, registration, lab fees, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15558 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:06 pm to
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I don't see why they can't at least get paid for their image and likeness


This. Also, this should be the only type of payment allowed.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27828 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:08 pm to
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So why is it illegal for a football player to be hired to advertise something, or sign something, or teach a football camp?

It isn’t illegal. If they want to market themselves and be paid for whatever sport they’re involved with they’re free to do so, they just aren’t eligible to participate in the NCAA.

Most people fail to realize their real argument is against the NFL. Just because a player has to wait three years per the NFL’s rules, and chooses to spend those years playing college football, it doesn’t mean the NCAA should have to open a can of worms that they can’t possibly deal with on any sort of equitable terms or blow up their model entirely.
Posted by Skeauxbie
Cape Coral, FL
Member since Jan 2008
41 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:35 pm to
false..the pussification of college football and fans whining about everything will end college football in 20-30 years
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:41 pm to
Once it starts you can't go back. Free Agency will logically follow because if it is legal under NCAA Rules to pay a player what is to prevent a player from leaving?

If another team offers more after a player is successful at say LSU and Bama or Auburn offers more money how do you tell him he can't take it? The transfer portal is already bad enough but yes paying players is going to ruin the sport.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:42 pm to
It will end other sports, not football
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1206 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:44 pm to
End is not the word. It will change the landscape of college football and have implications on recruiting but college football will always be great and never cease to exist
Posted by dchunk
NOLA
Member since Dec 2010
959 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:04 pm to
Seems as though pro/college baseball gets it. Follow that path.

Don't pay college players period. If they want to go to the pros and get paid, c'est la vie and goodbye college sports to them.

Would prefer to watch a game with dedicated, committed players on the field playing their hearts out and appreciate the opportunity provided them by the university and the fans. The trend lately is to mail in the bowl game (or not show at all) or not play games toward the end of the year because of a hangnail on the hopes of an NFL career that probably won't happen anyway.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7189 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:25 pm to
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And why would it be over?



That's really a dumb question. Most schools lose money on their football program. How will they pay? Socialize NCAA football? If that ever passes many schools will drop football.

According to one survey only 8 schools in the NCAA cover athletic dept expenses.

Louisiana State University (LSU)
Pennsylvania State University (Penn State)
University of Georgia
University of Iowa
University of Michigan
University of Nebraska
University of Oklahoma
University of Texas
Football revenue supports the entire athletic dept budgets at all schools. If they start paying football players they have to pay all sport players regardless of revenue. At LSU the "profit" is high because of the TAF and private money paying for upgrade to facilities. Its not all generated by the sport but aided greatly by it's sport foundations. Players are compensated now and that's how it should stay. If the players start refusing to play other will gladly accept that scholly.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 2:27 pm
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