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re: Paying Players Will End College Football. True or False?
Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:50 am to TigerFanNKaty
Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:50 am to TigerFanNKaty
They are already paid now. They get a free $100k or more education, room and board for free. That is their payment.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:53 am to YouAre8Up
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They are already paid now. They get a free $100k or more education, room and board for free. That is their payment.
So do people on academic scholarships yet they are not forbidden to make money off their own likeness or ideas.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:02 am to TigerFanNKaty
Way to broad for them to get paid.
Beach volleyball, water polo, football, golf, swimming, etc etc etc. The pay plan would be too extreme.
Beach volleyball, water polo, football, golf, swimming, etc etc etc. The pay plan would be too extreme.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:06 am to LouisianaJoseph
They are already paid.. at least $50k and probably more like $200k in kind for each year. Reality is that about 3 to 5 players on the top teams are significantly adding value. And even this is on a short list of the absolutely top teams. Even on the top teams 60 or 70 players are replacement level players as MLB evaluates WAR.
Anyway what is the point.
Anyway what is the point.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:29 am to TigerFanNKaty
Look, just make it so there is no age restriction to go to nfl. If you want to go get paid and die, then by all means go try it, if not you need to go to college or some other crap league in the meantime for 3 years. No exceptions, paying players in college will be the worst decision ever made by the ncaa if they do it.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:30 am to TigerFanNKaty
Yes, it would. There’s a perceived difference in college and pro, love of the game vs. a job. As incorrect as that is, if you have two pro leagues, one where the players aren’t as good, what tends to happen to the lesser product? Then, what’s to stop other entities from starting teams? It’s a rabbit hole, a bad one.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:46 am to TigerFanNKaty
Paying players is certainly not the panacea that many folks think. Would it eliminate under the table payments? Not likely. Boosters will just add to the pot of money, and the same problems that we have now with cheating will continue.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:46 am to YouAre8Up
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They are already paid now. They get a free $100k or more education, room and board for free. That is their payment
Alright, let's say there is a student attending LSU that can really sing. She has plenty of scholarships that cover tuition, room and board, meal plan, books. She participates in the LSU choir (assuming that's a thing). Some bar wants to hire her to sing, a couple wants to hire her to sing at their wedding, a band wants to pay her to open for them at their show. She can do all this, and make money doing it right? It makes perfect sense. She can sing, and people are willing to pay her to sing, so she should be able to do this right?
So why is it illegal for a football player to be hired to advertise something, or sign something, or teach a football camp?
For about the hundredth time.....NOBODY IS WANTING THE SCHOOLS TO PAY PLAYERS!!!!! It's not even possible.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:59 am to LouisianaJoseph
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You're not for paying people who produce millions of dollars in revenue? And why would it be over?
#1 a lot of great players get paid under the table. Don’t be naive. They are well taken care of.
#2 those same players and more get a full ride to a 4-year university. If going pro doesn’t work out, you have a degree to fall back on with no student loan debt.
#3 can you imagine if a player is paid by one school and enters the transfer portal because another school offers more? College football would become free agency with no contracts.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 10:45 am to TigerFanNKaty
No, it would not end college football! There is so much money is college football that it is financially safe for many years to come. I think players should get paid, but the question is how do you accomplish that? I don't have an answer for that, but if the coaches can makes millions on the back of these young players, the players also deserve a piece of the pie. Let's face it, without players, college football is nothing!
Posted on 7/24/19 at 11:07 am to LouisianaJoseph
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You're not for paying people who produce millions of dollars in revenue?
So, they're playing now for no pay while generating millions of dollars for the university. Why should the university pay them?
If I had a business that had 100 volunteers working 4-year internships for room and board and they were generating huge profits for me, why would I decide to give them a percentage? Just to cut into my profit margin?
I don't think that's how America works.
You compensate labor just enough that they provide you with the maximum profit.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 12:59 pm to LouisianaJoseph
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You're not for paying people who produce millions of dollars in revenue?
They get paid $30K a year (or more). It's called tuition, books, lodging, registration, lab fees, etc, etc, etc.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:06 pm to TigerLunatik
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I don't see why they can't at least get paid for their image and likeness
This. Also, this should be the only type of payment allowed.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:08 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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So why is it illegal for a football player to be hired to advertise something, or sign something, or teach a football camp?
It isn’t illegal. If they want to market themselves and be paid for whatever sport they’re involved with they’re free to do so, they just aren’t eligible to participate in the NCAA.
Most people fail to realize their real argument is against the NFL. Just because a player has to wait three years per the NFL’s rules, and chooses to spend those years playing college football, it doesn’t mean the NCAA should have to open a can of worms that they can’t possibly deal with on any sort of equitable terms or blow up their model entirely.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:35 pm to TigerFanNKaty
false..the pussification of college football and fans whining about everything will end college football in 20-30 years
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:41 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Once it starts you can't go back. Free Agency will logically follow because if it is legal under NCAA Rules to pay a player what is to prevent a player from leaving?
If another team offers more after a player is successful at say LSU and Bama or Auburn offers more money how do you tell him he can't take it? The transfer portal is already bad enough but yes paying players is going to ruin the sport.
If another team offers more after a player is successful at say LSU and Bama or Auburn offers more money how do you tell him he can't take it? The transfer portal is already bad enough but yes paying players is going to ruin the sport.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:42 pm to TigerFanNKaty
It will end other sports, not football
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:44 pm to TigerFanNKaty
End is not the word. It will change the landscape of college football and have implications on recruiting but college football will always be great and never cease to exist
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:04 pm to TigerFanNKaty
Seems as though pro/college baseball gets it. Follow that path.
Don't pay college players period. If they want to go to the pros and get paid, c'est la vie and goodbye college sports to them.
Would prefer to watch a game with dedicated, committed players on the field playing their hearts out and appreciate the opportunity provided them by the university and the fans. The trend lately is to mail in the bowl game (or not show at all) or not play games toward the end of the year because of a hangnail on the hopes of an NFL career that probably won't happen anyway.
Don't pay college players period. If they want to go to the pros and get paid, c'est la vie and goodbye college sports to them.
Would prefer to watch a game with dedicated, committed players on the field playing their hearts out and appreciate the opportunity provided them by the university and the fans. The trend lately is to mail in the bowl game (or not show at all) or not play games toward the end of the year because of a hangnail on the hopes of an NFL career that probably won't happen anyway.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:25 pm to LouisianaJoseph
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And why would it be over?
That's really a dumb question. Most schools lose money on their football program. How will they pay? Socialize NCAA football? If that ever passes many schools will drop football.
According to one survey only 8 schools in the NCAA cover athletic dept expenses.
Louisiana State University (LSU)
Pennsylvania State University (Penn State)
University of Georgia
University of Iowa
University of Michigan
University of Nebraska
University of Oklahoma
University of Texas
Football revenue supports the entire athletic dept budgets at all schools. If they start paying football players they have to pay all sport players regardless of revenue. At LSU the "profit" is high because of the TAF and private money paying for upgrade to facilities. Its not all generated by the sport but aided greatly by it's sport foundations. Players are compensated now and that's how it should stay. If the players start refusing to play other will gladly accept that scholly.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 2:27 pm
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