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Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:48 am to deaux
MH had 4 AB. He scored 3 times and got 2 hits. 1 RBI , 1 BB and 1 SO. What didn’t he do to deserve at least 10 more AB this season ? PM supporters like to ignore relevant stats.
Team as a whole has 499 AB, 120 total SO and 69 total BB. Let that sink in. We haven’t played a good team yet, but our SO/BB ratio is 2/1. Do y’all think it will get better when we hit SEC play ?
Team as a whole has 499 AB, 120 total SO and 69 total BB. Let that sink in. We haven’t played a good team yet, but our SO/BB ratio is 2/1. Do y’all think it will get better when we hit SEC play ?
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:50 am to ell_13
I think it's becoming clear Mainieri didn't trust Hampton as a defensive replacement right now. We keep hearing about his rust and losing balls. My thought is he probably hasn't looked great in practice. Notice he's also been put in LF not CF. There's no question he's more athletic than anyone else in the OF, but if he can't track balls, can't take proper angles, etc. then that athleticism becomes somewhat moot. Maybe he's having issues making the proper throws. I honesty don't know, but given Mainieri's career, he loves a fast an athletic outfielder when he has one. It would make no sense to play Bianco over Hampton unless Hampton just can't do it well.
Also, it deserves mentioning that when he's come in as a pinch runner, he made a huge base running mistake. He paid no attention to Cain holding the runner at third (can't remember who it was now) and was 2/3 of the way down the baseline before he realize the runner was held. And this wasn't one of the Cain calls that was late. He was holding all the way. Hampton just had tunnel vision and made an assumption. Mainieri doesn't like mistakes like that.
And as far as at bats are concerned, I agree he probably should have been given some more ABs in these blowouts games, but I'm not sure giving him 10 ABs, give or take, as opposed to 4 would have made him feel any better about his situation. He'd still be riding the bench all conference season, and that's not what he came here to do in his mind. I think he thought since he was skipping football this spring that he'd be a shoe-in to start. And believe me I get it. He knows what money he turned down and is now seeing the writing on the wall that he may never see that money again, and I'm sure that's a tough pill to swallow, and this happens all the time in this sport and others where a huge prospect doesn't end up where he wants to be when he gets to a big program like LSU with a team full of studs.
And, fwiw, I'm his biggest fan. He went to the same high school I did. We don't have a lot of guys playing D1 sports, and we've never had a kid playing for LSU in my lifetime. I wanted him to ball out more than anyone, and I hate that he's leaving.
Also, it deserves mentioning that when he's come in as a pinch runner, he made a huge base running mistake. He paid no attention to Cain holding the runner at third (can't remember who it was now) and was 2/3 of the way down the baseline before he realize the runner was held. And this wasn't one of the Cain calls that was late. He was holding all the way. Hampton just had tunnel vision and made an assumption. Mainieri doesn't like mistakes like that.
And as far as at bats are concerned, I agree he probably should have been given some more ABs in these blowouts games, but I'm not sure giving him 10 ABs, give or take, as opposed to 4 would have made him feel any better about his situation. He'd still be riding the bench all conference season, and that's not what he came here to do in his mind. I think he thought since he was skipping football this spring that he'd be a shoe-in to start. And believe me I get it. He knows what money he turned down and is now seeing the writing on the wall that he may never see that money again, and I'm sure that's a tough pill to swallow, and this happens all the time in this sport and others where a huge prospect doesn't end up where he wants to be when he gets to a big program like LSU with a team full of studs.
And, fwiw, I'm his biggest fan. He went to the same high school I did. We don't have a lot of guys playing D1 sports, and we've never had a kid playing for LSU in my lifetime. I wanted him to ball out more than anyone, and I hate that he's leaving.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:54 am to The Pirate King
Disappointing.. Hope he goes the JUCO to MLB route Ell is always pimping so we don't run into him in a year or 2. Could see him balling out Ole Miss or State.
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:56 am to lsufball19
Good post. I don’t want to keep going in circles because I think you know my stances on some of the points we disagree on but a lot of it is opinion based. So we simply disagree on one or two things. Like you I wish the best for him. And again I think he’s much better than people are saying he is.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:57 am to The Pirate King
Yea...I been shittin on Pawl as much as anyone this season, but why exactly are you mad here? Kid wasn't going to start, so what exactly are we losing?
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:58 am to michael corleone
quote:Are we calling 4 at bat sample sizes relevant? If so, can you tell me what Drost did in his first 4 ABs?
MH had 4 AB. He scored 3 times and got 2 hits. 1 RBI , 1 BB and 1 SO. What didn’t he do to deserve at least 10 more AB this season ? PM supporters like to ignore relevant stats.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:59 am to michael corleone
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MH had 4 AB. He scored 3 times and got 2 hits. 1 RBI , 1 BB and 1 SO. What didn’t he do to deserve at least 10 more AB this season ?
I agree he deserved to get more at bats but I also think that he simply was behind a bunch of guys in the OF. This team has its struggles in the lineup but it’s all coming from infielder not outfielders.
The only outfield position currently open is going to not be open the moment Gio comes back from injury. Drost has been struggling of late and maybe those extra at bats for Hampton were coming but he made the decision to transfer instead of be patient like CPM told him.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:01 am to ell_13
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And again I think he’s much better than people are saying he is.
For his sake, I honestly wish he had just signed out of high school. I was as excited about him as any other player we've ever signed for our shared personal connection of being MUS alums, but in hindsight, I wish he'd have taken the money because he'd likely be in a much better spot now than he is. I also hate to see his struggles on the football field. He made some plays in high school, both as a receiver and as a defensive back, that were unbelievably athletic plays. Kid has so much natural ability. I'll still be his biggest fan wherever he ends upand hope he finds himself in the majors some day.
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Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:02 am to MOT
Someone was using random scrimmages to totaling 9 ABs where he went 0-9 with 4Ks. It sheds light on the early struggles but he wasn’t the only one. Travinski was 0-7 with 4Ks in those games. Wyeth only had a hit and a ton of Ks. Arnold too. One of his 2 hits was a jam job dribbler to 3B with the 3rd baseman playing back.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:04 am to lsufball19
Hester made a great point this morning. He worked his arse off to earn a starting spot on one of the best teams ever. He was talked a lot in 2019 about how good he would be partially because of how hard he worked. No one looked good last year on defense. You have to blame the scheme. No way that many players can look so bad outside of cover corners.
As far as taking the money, sounds like his dad is to blame.
As far as taking the money, sounds like his dad is to blame.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:10 am to ell_13
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He worked his arse off to earn a starting spot on one of the best teams ever. He was talked a lot in 2019 about how good he would be partially because of how hard he worked.
I don’t think anyone is questioning his work ethic. At least I’m not at all. I just think missing the reps against live pitching than the rest of the team is getting while he is focusing on football puts him behind everyone else. I think people are trying to make it more complicated than it really is.
Those are also reps the coaches are missing out on to evaluate him. Baseball coaches want as much information as they can get. The more numbers they have the better information they have to predict future success.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:11 am to ell_13
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As far as taking the money, sounds like his dad is to blame.
Yeah, I actually ran into Hampton with one of our high school coaches on one of his visits in 2018. It was before the Alabama game. It sounded to me like Hampton was going to sign after that conversation with my old coach, but I guess maybe his dad wanted more money than 1.8 million.
And I totally agree with the scheme as it pertains to football. Even Stingley looked poor in that scheme. And that may have had something to do with why Mainieri didn't want him to but football altogether. I think he knows how gifted an athlete Hampton is and wants him to make a decision knowing all the facts, and I really have no problem with him being up front with him about where he stands right now.
And yeah, I don't think anyone has ever had issues with his work ethic. Mainieri has gone out of his way multiple times to praise Hampton's work ethic.
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Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:12 am to ell_13
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I think that’s TBD. Talent is there. It’s not like it disappeared.
So, Paul isn't sitting a first round talent. He's sitting a kid who was viewed as a 1st round talent in high school.
That's a pretty important distinction. His in ability to show himself as being better than his college teammates (all things considered) is the more important piece of information.
Mainieri, if he saw that first round potential, should be playing him because it's in the team's best interest for him to realize that potential asap. If Mainieri doesn't really see him as that special, then making him compete and outplay the competition makes sense.
So, that's why your opinion of whether he is a first rounder is important or not. That's the position Mainieri is in right now. Identify him as a special player. Or, identify him as one of many who have similar talent and who fall into the same category of may develop or may not develop.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:17 am to MOT
The sample size is relevant to the question I posed—-what didnt he did to deserve more AB? More AB increase the sample size and give the coach a better assessment of his in game ability. The kid did nothing wrong to deserve less AB that’s for damn sure. If a single base running error is all you guys can pull, then shame on you. Despite speculation, the kid didn’t make any errors in the field.
Tell what’s the appropriate sample size to criticize PM? I can hold off posting until then. Do you think the SO/BB ration will improve when we reach SEC pitching ? Do we need warmer weather to not SO at a 2/1 ratio? Sorry guys, I am just tired of the same old PM.
Tell what’s the appropriate sample size to criticize PM? I can hold off posting until then. Do you think the SO/BB ration will improve when we reach SEC pitching ? Do we need warmer weather to not SO at a 2/1 ratio? Sorry guys, I am just tired of the same old PM.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:22 am to ell_13
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No one looked good last year on defense. You have to blame the scheme. No way that many players can look so bad outside of cover corners.
That right there is a true statement! God I'm glad Pelini is GONE!!!! Can't wait to see our defense come alive again this Fall!!
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:23 am to moneyg
quote:Im leaning towards we have a kid hit with two injuries at really bad times and it has affected the perception of what he can do. The talent evaluation doesn’t change. He could still be a first rounder one day. At least it wouldn’t shock me although it might shock others.
So, Paul isn't sitting a first round talent. He's sitting a kid who was viewed as a 1st round talent in high school.
That's a pretty important distinction. His in ability to show himself as being better than his college teammates (all things considered) is the more important piece of information.
quote:PM may have thought he had more time or that he just wasn’t ready quite yet. Doesn’t mean he didn’t think the potential was there which is what a draft is after all.
So, that's why your opinion of whether he is a first rounder is important or not. That's the position Mainieri is in right now. Identify him as a special player.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:27 am to michael corleone
What did he do to earn more ABs over someone else? That’s the central issue here.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:38 am to michael corleone
quote:Neither did the people he would be playing in front of. Thanks for making my point for me.
The kid did nothing wrong to deserve less AB that’s for damn sure
Posted on 3/12/21 at 10:41 am to MOT
I see lots of folks who deserve less at bats. Again, you ignore the 2/1 strike out to walk ratio. I backed up my position with individual and team statistics. We have been blown out and likewise have blown out other teams. We’ve lost Air Force and two games to freaking Oral Roberts. The team as a whole as a collective 2/1 strike out to walk ratio. Are you seriously going to argue that this kid did not deserve more at bats and that there were not “dead” innings during the last three weeks where he could have been inserted into the lineup ? How far will you guys stretch to prop up Paul?
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 10:46 am
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