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Pass Interference Call v. Auburn
Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:27 am
Posted on 10/25/11 at 5:27 am
I re-watched the Auburn game last night, and something struck me about that pass interference call in the 2nd quarter.
It was a 3rd down, and Lee tried to hit RR on a slant. The safety jumped the route and nearly got the pick.
The corner, though, had RR wrapped up completely.
On the replay, it was nearly identical to the situation with Early Doucet in the 2006 game. This time, though, the refs got it right.
Remembering how badly LSU got screwed by the refs that day at Auburn made Saturday's epic beatdown all the more enjoyable. I may watch it again tonight.
It was a 3rd down, and Lee tried to hit RR on a slant. The safety jumped the route and nearly got the pick.
The corner, though, had RR wrapped up completely.
On the replay, it was nearly identical to the situation with Early Doucet in the 2006 game. This time, though, the refs got it right.
Remembering how badly LSU got screwed by the refs that day at Auburn made Saturday's epic beatdown all the more enjoyable. I may watch it again tonight.
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:06 am to mtntiger
quote:first thing I thought of. Though WR getting tackled by a DB when the ball is in the air shouldn't be that shocking that a penalty was called.
On the replay, it was nearly identical to the situation with Early Doucet in the 2006 game. This time, though, the refs got it right.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:09 am to mtntiger
i do feel the new les-strategy in sec games, is to beat the refs, then the opponents.
lsu cannot play any games which can be decided by alabama refs.
the beat down has to be the norm.
lsu cannot play any games which can be decided by alabama refs.
the beat down has to be the norm.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:11 am to drexyl
to me it almost looked like lee baited them into that. the auburn defender was holding onto RR from the minute he came off the line, and lee threw it in there knowing he'd get the penalty. granted, that was still extremely risky on his part, but it just seemed that way to me personally. i could be completely wrong though and trying to sugar coat it, ha
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:19 am to mtntiger
I thought the same thing, I actually have the pic of that as my avatar
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:21 am to mtntiger
I think the majority of the stadium instantly thought that too when we saw the officials huddle up and it wasn't an immediate call from the ref. From my understanding, the difference here is that the interference occured before the ball was tipped away, and in AU'06 they said it occured after. I still say AU'06 was one of the worst calls I've ever seen.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:23 am to 9Fiddy
quote:in tiger stadium
the difference here is that the interference occured
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:24 am to mtntiger
quote:
On the replay, it was nearly identical to the situation with Early Doucet in the 2006 game. This time, though, the refs got it right.
In the 2006 game, the ball was tipped. There is no pass interference after that.
So, it was not identical. The contact may be the same. But, there was no tip this time (BEFORE the contact).
Now, you can argue as to whether or not you agree that the '06 ball was actually tipped. But, THAT was the call and the reason that the pass interference was denied.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 6:26 am
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:26 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
In the 2006 game, the ball was tipped. There is no pass interference after that.
but the pass interference was prior to the tip
sure, the ball was tipped before it got to the receiver, but that doesn't negate that the receiver was interfered with prior to the tip
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:30 am to baytiger
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but the pass interference was prior to the tip
You and I (and the refs) just disagree. That game is a long time ago. Move on.
Even IF you were correct, calls are not completely consistent. Those are humans making them.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:33 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
BHP, I understand what the ruling was in 2006, but what they argued is that because the safety tipped the ball there could be no pass interference.
That's exactly what happened Saturday.
As another poster pointed out, the BIG difference in the plays is that one occurred at Auburn, the other in Tiger Stadium.
That '06 call was arguably one of the worst ever in college football (the 5 downs for Colorado still has to be the worst ever, though).
That's exactly what happened Saturday.
As another poster pointed out, the BIG difference in the plays is that one occurred at Auburn, the other in Tiger Stadium.
That '06 call was arguably one of the worst ever in college football (the 5 downs for Colorado still has to be the worst ever, though).
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:39 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
You and I (and the refs) just disagree. That game is a long time ago. Move on.
You've been around here long enough to know that you cannot bring logic into the Rant. There are multiple threads on here complaining about the referees in a game that is two weeks away.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:40 am to mtntiger
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As another poster pointed out, the BIG difference in the plays is that one occurred at Auburn, the other in Tiger Stadium.
i don't think that had anything to do with it. you just had two different officiating crews, one who knew the rule, and one who didn't. i think people take the "home cooking" thing way too far on here. (good teams get calls, we have benefited as well from that, but no one ever wants to admit that) bad calls happen. that game was horribly called throughout, and i believe the crew was suspended he next week, but i don't believe where the game was played had anything to do with the calls that were made. just my opinion.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 6:41 am
Posted on 10/25/11 at 6:58 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
quote: but the pass interference was prior to the tip
The contact with Doucet was before the tip. The call was overturned because the ball was deemed uncatchable after the tip. You can Google it to see the video on YouTube.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 7:00 am
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:04 am to tigerinridgeland
quote:the famous picture of this play clearly shows this. Im not sure where BHP or the guy praising him for bringing logic to the rant are coming from.
The contact with Doucet was before the tip.
The DB had Doucet wrapped up prior to the safety touching the ball. Same exact play except this time the ref didn't act like a fricking pussy and pick up the flag. <------- that is bringing logic and truth to the rant btw
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 7:05 am
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:10 am to drexyl
Regardless of how those refs justified it or tried to explain it away, it still ranks as one of the worst calls in the history of college football.
As Drexyl points out, the photos that exist of the play clearly show Doucet was being mugged well in advance of the safety tipping the ball. Even if that wasn't pass interference, at the very least it's illegal contact beyond the 5-yard buffer OR defensive holding.
I don't recall those refs being suspended after that game, but I would have fired them.
As Drexyl points out, the photos that exist of the play clearly show Doucet was being mugged well in advance of the safety tipping the ball. Even if that wasn't pass interference, at the very least it's illegal contact beyond the 5-yard buffer OR defensive holding.
I don't recall those refs being suspended after that game, but I would have fired them.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:27 am to mtntiger
quote:
I don't recall those refs being suspended after that game, but I would have fired them.
i'm almost positive they were suspended
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:28 am to mtntiger
The refs determination was that the deflection of the pass made it uncatchable.
I get it. You disagree with that. However, THAT was what the officials determined. Once it was determined uncatchable...there is NO pass interference.
Again, move on. There is no referee conference at which they decide that "we are at Auburn, so let's make bad call in AU's favor"
It just does not happen that way.
I get it. You disagree with that. However, THAT was what the officials determined. Once it was determined uncatchable...there is NO pass interference.
Again, move on. There is no referee conference at which they decide that "we are at Auburn, so let's make bad call in AU's favor"
It just does not happen that way.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:33 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:so tackle all receivers when the ball is in the air and as long as a DB bats it into the third row it's an uncatchable ball. Got it.
I get it. You disagree with that. However, THAT was what the officials determined. Once it was determined uncatchable...there is NO pass interference.
I understand THAT was what the officials determined but if the officials determined we had 15 men on the field when we only had 11 I would be irritated about that too. They fricked up the call plain and simple.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 7:36 am
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:36 am to drexyl
quote:
so tackle all receivers when the ball is in the air and as long as a DB bats it into the third row it's an uncatchable ball. Got it.
Correct. However, the db doing the "batting" has to be in position to do it before it reaches the intended receiver.
If you can pull THAT off, you are good to go with your strategy.
quote:
The Southeastern Conference determined that officials made the right decision in reversing a pass interference call on a deflected pass late in the Auburn-LSU game.
SEC coordinator of officials Rogers Redding said Monday the call was correct because the pass was made uncatchable, making the timing of the contact irrelevant.
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