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re: Overrated proven losers. How do they do it?

Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:39 am to
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7327 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:39 am to
Our head coach is Ed Orgeron. Our O.C. is Steve Ensminger
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:40 am to
Sumlin's time at aTm was successful, as is what Muschamp is doing at USCe.

LSU meanwhile...
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31888 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:42 am to
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Both Rich Rod and Sumlin had just been fired when AZ hired them. That's some lazy bullshite right there.

Rich Rod was not fired due to performance on the field though.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10459 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:48 am to
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How does this happen time and time again?
Ask those who hire them.
I defer to the unquestioned authority on this subject, Joe Alleva.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
13031 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:52 am to
LSU is the coach killer.
Yea, Nick Saban is a horrible failure.
Posted by rsylve
Terrytown, LA
Member since Feb 2013
3970 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:52 am to
No they figure if you can’t win at LSU you can’t win anywhere.
Posted by ByUselves
On a Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
3793 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:54 am to
Aggies problem is they still try to play Big 12 football in the SEC.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:55 am to
It's unreal.


Both of those coaches are better than the current LSU head coach.

frick
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20655 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:03 am to
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Rich Rod was not fired due to performance on the field though.


What? He had 2 losing seasons, including the worst season in school history, and his last year they lost 6 of their last 8 games. He absolutely was fired for his teams performance on the field.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:04 am to
How is that any different than what LSU did when hiring O?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26358 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:14 am to
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Sumlin gets another HC position after doing nothing at A&M. Nothing. And with insane talent.

I wouldn't say he did nothing. He did better than the previous two coaches. They had 1 bowl win over there in the decade before Sumlin took over. He went to 5 straight bowls and won his first 3. He also transitioned them into the SEC successfully without ever having a losing season, beat Bama at Bama in his first year and finished in the top 5. He turned them into a respectable program. Still couldn't beat LSU though...
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33914 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:18 am to
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How is that any different than what LSU did when hiring O?




I think there's a good chance Sumlin has learned from his mistakes, just like Orgeron.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:27 am to
They like Saban.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60871 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:27 am to
Kevin Sumlin has 1 losing season in 10 years as a HC. He was also hired by Arizona. If he has the same record he had at A&M at Arizona he’s not getting fired.
Posted by SwampManiac
Quito, Ecuador
Member since Jul 2013
1809 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:28 am to
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LSU is the coach killer.


Yup. Killed Saban.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31888 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:31 am to
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He absolutely was fired for his teams performance on the field.

He was fired because he had an affair with a woman who worked in the sports admin office, ala bobby petrino.
He was not fired for on-field performance.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12472 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:36 am to
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LSU is the coach killer
That Saban guy really proves this point.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3759 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:37 am to
So what was LSU's excuse for hiring Orgeron? He must have killed it at Ole Piss?
Posted by SwampManiac
Quito, Ecuador
Member since Jul 2013
1809 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:37 am to
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Sumlin's time at aTm was successful, as is what Muschamp is doing at USCe.

LSU meanwhile...


Sumlin at A&M: 51-26 - 66% winning record
Muschamp at UF: 28-21 - 57% winning record

Those are considered successful?

Miles at LSU: 114-34 - 77% winning record
Fisher at FSU: 83-23 - 78% winning record

Those are successful coaches.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46215 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:40 am to
REALLY thought this thread was gonna be about something else
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