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re: Our fan support of basketball is downright pathetic

Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:20 pm to
Wow joe, how'd you type that with your whte hood on?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:21 pm to
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Basketball other players are ob constant reliance on you to be where yoh are suppose to be or it all fails.


Pretty sure if the 3rd or 2nd baseman is playing where they aren't supposed to be the batter will be sure to try and take advantage by hitting the ball that way. (i.e. if they are playing you to pull, so the batter wants to try and hit oppo, the pitcher needs to throw the ball inside to the batter, but instead throws it the the outside portion of the plate)

quote:

Baseball if the ball isn't where its suppose to be the batter is rewarded with a ball.


Not true. See above example.

Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:23 pm to
what cho mean ??
Posted by Call Me Cam
Member since Nov 2013
313 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:26 pm to
Baseball isn't the problem regarding lack of support of the basketball team...

It's ridiculous that you want people to support one sport over the other. How about support both? Or the casual football fan start supporting the basketball program as well.

No need to bash the game of baseball or LSU's baseball team.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65474 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:29 pm to
Ooh, ooh, I want to try...

The runner on first base is 22/26 in stolen base attempts. I need to help my catcher out and throw fastball so that he has a chance to throw the runner out at second. But wait, the batter is a dead pull, fast ball hitter who homered twice yesterday, so if I throw a fastball over the plate, he might rip it to left field. On the other hand, the left handed batter on deck only hits .178 vs lefty pitchers, and my cut fastball that is really moving today is likely to get a ground ball out of him. So I'll just stick to the off speed on this batter, give up the stolen base, and with first base now open I won't worry about a walk. Then I can attack the lefty on deck to get the inning ending 4-6-3.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:30 pm to
Even in thoss instances that doesn't involve a team strategy. If batter a is facing a shift that's the pte conceived strategy and not on fly strategy.
The pitcher can't pass the ball to center to first to 3rd to make the runners rotate and catch them out of position. The runners having a set line to where they can be and cant leave that area.and when ballis in play very few players acactually effect the out come. Ya I know u backup players but that'sa broken pla of u r needed.

And in between pitches batters and coaches pitchers etc can think about what they will do during next ball in play based on what they know before hand. Its still not on fly strategy.

I came back and said it has pre conceived strategy. I think its a loteasier to know baseball stestrategy than bball strategy because one you study and the other you have to figure out on fly

This phone sucks for posting .bedtime
Later guy
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:30 pm to
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The runner on first base is 22/26 in stolen base attempts. I need to help my catcher out and throw fastball so that he has a chance to throw the runner out at second. But wait, the batter is a dead pull, fast ball hitter who homered twice yesterday, so if I throw a fastball over the plate, he might rip it to left field. On the other hand, the left handed batter on deck only hits .178 vs lefty pitchers, and my cut fastball that is really moving today is likely to get a ground ball out of him. So I'll just stick to the off speed on this batter, give up the stolen base, and with first base now open I won't worry about a walk. Then I can attack the lefty on deck to get the inning ending 4-6-3.


love it
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:32 pm to
You go to your notes and coach looks at his book and gives catcher a sign for u to throw. Not on fly strategy. U have time to look at situation then proceed
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:32 pm to


That was horrible, just horrible
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:32 pm to
Ooh, ooh, I want to try...

quote:

The runner on first base is 22/26 in stolen base attempts. I need to help my catcher out and throw fastball so that he has a chance to throw the runner out at second. But wait, the batter is a dead pull, fast ball hitter who homered twice yesterday, so if I throw a fastball over the plate, he might rip it to left field. On the other hand, the left handed batter on deck only hits .178 vs lefty pitchers, and my cut fastball that is really moving today is likely to get a ground ball out of him. So I'll just stick to the off speed on this batter, give up the stolen base, and with first base now open I won't worry about a walk. Then I can attack the lefty on deck to get the inning ending 4-6-3


+1 well done pigue...well done
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:34 pm to
you do know that a lot of catchers call their own game, not the coaches

ETA:

and baseball really doesn't take that long from pitch to pitch, like a minimum of 10 seconds for the pitcher to get back on the mound, get the signal and go.
This post was edited on 11/27/13 at 11:35 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78712 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:35 pm to
Not in college. Which is what he's talking about.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:35 pm to
Except you know the strategy before its ever put in play. The situatiom you have time to think about it and get help feom your catcher. Dont forget your coach can also come out and talk abouy it.

I'm bball defense can't call time out and its constant motion so you are constantly thinking on fly while having to react. It really is a beautiful game when played correctly
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:36 pm to
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Not in college. Which is what he's talking about


any D1 school with any decent catching prospect usually is allowed to call his own game..
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:38 pm to
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I'm bball defense can't call time out and its constant motion so you are constantly thinking on fly while having to react. It really is a beautiful game when played correctly


When a runner hits a ball in the gap, he has to constantly think about if he has enough time to get to third base, all depending on numerous amount of info that he has to take in "on the fly"
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78712 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:38 pm to
The only catcher lsu has had recently that called his own game was gibbs.

Stop making things up. It happens rarely, not commonly.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:40 pm to
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It really is a beautiful game when played correctly


When was the last time that happened? I'll tell you...the years that college basketball banned dunking(thanks Lew). Actually had plays, no palming, no walking, no dunking. Took some skill to play and the average center was probably 6'7"ish.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65474 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:40 pm to
John Callipari is an average game coach, but he cheats like crazy to get stud players. He just brings in the talent and rolls the ball out.

If you want to see how much coaching matters in baseball, just look at LSU's pitching numbers since Alan Dunn arrived.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78712 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:43 pm to
You must not watch a lot of basketball if you think cal is an average coach. And he doesn't cheat as much as scott drew.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:43 pm to
He's looking and its pretty easy to tell from little league up if you can make it. And you also have a coach who is giving you a signal at two of the three bags on what you should do. And its only effecting you. You trying to edge out a triple won't put another teammate out of position on that particular play. You are in complete control of that whole play.If you get out its on your and your coaches miscalculation. But it only effected you and it's boneheaded because its a simple thing to tell if you can make it.its why people get annoyed when you are thrown out by ignoring coaches stop signq

OK really off to bed.GEAUX tigers
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