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re: Ott and Hanny both just agreed Canada won’t be here next year
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:35 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:35 am to The Pirate King
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Canada isn’t going anywhere unless he leaves on his own accord and forfeits the buyout.
It isn't his end of the buyout that is the problem. It is LSU's end that is, should he leave on his own accord.
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:36 am to The Pirate King
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I wish I could go back and find all the posts bitching about all of the motion and begging to simplify it and just run the ball.
If there were complaints about the motions, it was that it was not fooling anyone.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:36 am to therick711
I’m not saying you should do something because the fanbase wants it, I’m saying the people here whines about doing it...now say “I can’t believe he did that! He’s meddling in the offense!”
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:37 am to 1999
I have no way of knowing if it's true. But if it is...
1. Maybe that's why Brennan hasn't been in? Why get reps in an offense that he won't be in next year?
2. More importantly, who is next? We need to get names out there for Ponamsky to include in the binder. I remember Dan
Enos being hyped in the past and it looks like he'll be available...
1. Maybe that's why Brennan hasn't been in? Why get reps in an offense that he won't be in next year?
2. More importantly, who is next? We need to get names out there for Ponamsky to include in the binder. I remember Dan
Enos being hyped in the past and it looks like he'll be available...
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:38 am to The Pirate King
That's oversimplifying it, though. His offense coordinator was not in accord with the plan of action. He was hired to run it without interference, received stupid interference that neutered the offense, and was rightly pissed about it. If he leaves, it is on the back of that incident in my opinion.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:41 am to UpToPar
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This is why you dont hire a HC that relies on hiring and keeping elite coordinato
Saban 100% relies on his OC's.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:42 am to The Pirate King
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Literally 90% of the fanbase wanted to do the same thing.
Most of which are composed of emotionally fragile simpletons that aren't paid $3.5 million to coach football.
Could not care less what the freakin rant said we should do with the offense.
Orgeron was foolish to step in. Especially after he vowed when he was hired that he learned from his mistakes at ole miss and would "let his coaches coach."
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:42 am to LSUminati
We should give him a chance to do his thing. The plays are there so wait and see what happens with a better QB.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:42 am to Stevo
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This is why you dont hire a HC that relies on hiring and keeping elite coordinato
Saban 100% relies on his OC's.
The original post omitted the word "middling." When you put that needed word in, it all falls into place.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:43 am to UpToPar
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A vast majority of successful coaches run one side of the ball
not true. The vast majority rely upon their coordinators.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:45 am to Stevo
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not true. The vast majority rely upon their coordinators.
Both of your statements could be true. There isn't a true disagreement there. It looks mostly like pedantic nitpicking.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:47 am to Stevo
Let him go. Let’s get some hookers and get Freeze as OC!!
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:47 am to massiveattack
Not like it matters much. Offense is still subpar.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:47 am to Stevo
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Saban 100% relies on his OC's.
Absolutely. Maybe I wasn’t clear. What I meant to say was:
This is why you don’t hire a HC that relies on hiring and keeping both an elite OC AND an elite DC.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:48 am to ElRoos
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Not like it matters much. Offense is still subpar.
Our measurables are still not very good, but it does matter. We have to have a learning curve every time we switch coaches. It was always the risk of the hiring a guy to not coach, coach. That said, we should hope for more than a year at a time, if possible, though.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:51 am to UpToPar
Canada may want to leave, but he is not going to get a job for next season that pays him anywhere near what his 3-year LSU contract would pay.
I think Canada stays for another 2 seasons and then gets a small school (non-Power 5 HC job.)
I think Canada stays for another 2 seasons and then gets a small school (non-Power 5 HC job.)
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:52 am to therick711
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It looks mostly like pedantic nitpicking.
not pedantic at all. To state that the vast majority of D1 coaches control one side of the ball of the other is a gross overstatement. The vast majority manage the program and rely principally on their OC and DC.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:53 am to GeorgeWest
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Canada may want to leave, but he is not going to get a job for next season that pays him anywhere near what his 3-year LSU contract would pay.
This assumes the belief that Canada would not be willing to work for less in a different situation. It isn't often that happens, but it does happen. Look at Lane Kiffin, for one. LSU's part of the buyout would be the stumbling block for him leaving.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:53 am to UpToPar
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This is why you don’t hire a HC that relies on hiring and keeping both an elite OC AND an elite DC.
I know what you meant, I just don't agree that most D1 coaches control one side of the ball.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:53 am to therick711
It was a shotgun marriage so I can understand if it doesn't work out. As I know we all know Coach O was waiting on Kiffin who he has a long relationship with. When Kiffin went to FAU Brennan briefly de-committed and said it was a ploy to force the naming of an OC. Coach O went out and got the hottest name but the two coached didn't know each other at all.
I suspect coaches probably are pretty egotistical so it's not unbelievable that they just didn't mesh. Coaches tend to continue to work with other coaches they know and O and Canada just didn't know each other. Maybe they've established a relationship now or maybe not.
So, thinking about what might happen if Canada leaves, I'd be interested to know who Coach O knows. Surely Hugh Freeze is off-the-table; does O know Phil Longo, Ole Miss' current OC? Their offense is pretty exciting. And Dan Enos at Arkansas was thought highly of in the past.
I assume the move wouldn't happen until after signing day, right?
I suspect coaches probably are pretty egotistical so it's not unbelievable that they just didn't mesh. Coaches tend to continue to work with other coaches they know and O and Canada just didn't know each other. Maybe they've established a relationship now or maybe not.
So, thinking about what might happen if Canada leaves, I'd be interested to know who Coach O knows. Surely Hugh Freeze is off-the-table; does O know Phil Longo, Ole Miss' current OC? Their offense is pretty exciting. And Dan Enos at Arkansas was thought highly of in the past.
I assume the move wouldn't happen until after signing day, right?
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