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re: Orgeron's Top 5 wins at LSU:
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:06 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:06 pm to lsufball19
We just see these 3 loss LSU seasons in a different light.
Beyond the media fluff, I see them as needing repair instead of rivaling or even exceeding other 2 loss LSU teams that
border on title-winner and just need cards to fall right for a natty.
Beyond the media fluff, I see them as needing repair instead of rivaling or even exceeding other 2 loss LSU teams that
border on title-winner and just need cards to fall right for a natty.
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:07 pm to lsufball19
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I have, several times. You keep repeating the same thing, so clearly you aren’t going to get it and it’s pointless hoping you will at this point. I haven’t deflected away from anything. I made a statement, clarified said statement twice, and you continue to respond in an illogical manner. If you still think I was making a direct comparison to those seasons, I can’t help you. That’s your problem, not mine.
The only thing you've clarified is that your comparison was stupid.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:07 pm to lsufball19
That’s his defense mechanism when he is wrong
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:08 pm to Mayhawman
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We just see these 3 loss LSU seasons in a different light.
In what way?
Are three losses really that different?
If you want to break it down within a season that's fine
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The last 3 loss SEC title was almost 2 decades ago, so yep I think they're very different than a 2 loss season.
In what way?
Are three losses really that different?
LSU 3 loss seasons are quite common over last 10 years and not really some cause celebre.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:32 pm to jptiger2009
A bunch of fire coaches and Malzahn who is almost fired after the loss this year. 30+MM buyout kept that from happening. Plus no Heisman candidate for UCF. In fact UCF was a shadow of itself and that wasn’t very good considering they had zero defense this past season. Hence why they would have gotten zero consideration for the playoffs.
The best win IMO was against Louisville.
UGA was a paper dog. They were one demensional.
The best win IMO was against Louisville.
UGA was a paper dog. They were one demensional.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:35 pm to Tiger1988
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UGA was a paper dog. They were one demensional.
They looked pretty damn good vs Auburn, Florida and even Alabama.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Don't even bother with that retard. Best win by far is Georgia. Ranked #2 and 11-1 regular season.
So, you still live in Alaska?
So, you still live in Alaska?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why? Auburn has a hell of a lot of talent on the roster
I have no doubt that they do. But excuse me for not being impressed by an 8-5 season record and a 3-5 SEC record. And it's also funny how you state that Auburn has a hell of a lot of talent on their roster yet a lot of you folks bent over backwards to try to make the case that LSU had next to no talent on the team when o took over.
Nice job Rog.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:45 am to lsufball19
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mid-major that had won 25 consecutive games and finished the season ranked 12th. Why do you insist on spinning him winning that game? Because we were a lot better than them and that's supposed to be looked at in a negative light?
Because they gave up 445 yards and 34 points in a single half against temple.
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swear you will do anything to denigrate any possible accomplishment of the football team since Orgeron took ove
You mean the same win loss numbers and horrible offense that got the last coach fired?
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I don't know why it pains you so much to give credit where credit is due. I promise you can cite Orgeron's deficiencies and failures while also giving him credit for things he's done well and his accomplishments
Kind of like how ive repeatedly said O is a legit oc away from winning titles at lsu?
Like i said 2018 was a decent season and the great class made it even better?
Im sorry im not gonna tout wins against teams that lose 4 games.
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What's amusing is you talk about "facts" all the time but misstate facts fairly regularly and rarely admit you were wrong.
bullshite. I readily admit when im wrong im just rarely wrong.
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Here's one to wrap your head around. In the 2007 national championship season, Les Miles beat 1 team in the regular season that lost fewer than 4 games and lost to two teams with 5 losse
And won the west, sec , and national title.
Let me know when O does that.
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I just made that blanket statement without any context, I could very easily say what you do "sorry, those are the facts ?" but that would admittedly be an outrageous comment to leave out any context because LSU also won the SEC and the national title that year
Am i leaving out a title from O's tenure? If not your analogy doesnt fit.
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2010, beat one team with fewer than 4 losses, no division title, no conference title. But it was a top 5 finish w a great bowl win and most people viewed it as a successful season and good bounce back from 2008-2009. Why can’t you do that now
You mean the 2 loss season?
Did we have a 2 loss season this year?
See youre leaving out stuff.
2010 finished with 2 losses.
Im not.
This year we played 4 p5 teams with less than 5 losses and went 1-3.
If youre happy with 2018 you should be happy with 2012. We were the top ranked
3 loss team and finished with a better sec record.
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Why can’t you do that now?
Do what?
In 2010 we only lost 2 games.
When we fired miles everyone agreed that losing to bama,losing to multiple inferior teams, and having a shite offense WAS IN NO WAY A GREAT SEASON and was actually deened underachieving.
And again.... ive readily admitted this season was decent
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 2:01 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:47 am to lsufball19
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When did I argue otherwise? Now it’s your turn to tell me where anything in that quote is factually incorrect. Is it your argument because some arbirtrary season was marginally better than 2018, that 2018 wasn’t good? Or is it your argument neither were? But you responded illogically in the other thread as well, so you’re at least consistent.
But youre equating a 2 loss season to a 3 loss season.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:51 am to lsufball19
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Which is why I framed the 2007 and 2010 seasons with factually correct information but intentionally misleading...i.e. how Rickie argues in every one of these threads and tailors his stats to support his predetermined conclusion. If your takeaway was anything else, I’m sorry you can’t keep up
Except youre using 2 season that are without question better than 3 loss seasons.
Youre purposefully leaving shite out.
Im not. What am i leaving out when i posted how many good teams O has beaten?
Am i leaving out a title? Am i leaving out a 2 loss season?
I respect your opinion and think youre a good poster because our vastly different view points always stay cordial but this analogy doesnt work.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:58 am to lsufball19
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Me saying “why can’t you do the same as this year” was in line with a good finish, good end of year ranking, bounce back after more disappointing 2016-2017 season and a good bowl win. It wasn’t to say it was the same or better than 2010 but more the way Rickie chooses to present “facts” in the manner he does. I think he’s turned from a Miles sycophant to a hypocrite.
Youre purposefully leaving out vital details.
Im not.
Ive said O had a great class.
Ive said he can win titles at lsu.
Im not leaving out a better win loss number like youre doing with 2010.
Im not leaving out a west,sec title, or national title.
And for the record... the things i posted about miles were 99% facts. Just like i do with O.
There is no way to spin win loss numbers, titles, win %.
You just dont like those facts so you label them as selective.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 1:59 am
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