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re: Orgeron will get things fixed
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:55 pm to BassMan63
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:55 pm to BassMan63
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No one can be great ALL the time.
Yeah, well a supposedly elite program can’t be historically bad either. No one with any sense should have expected a repeat of last year... losses to the likes of Bama, Florida, Auburn, etc. shouldn’t have surprised anyone with all of the losses and coaching turnover. But Missouri? frickING Missouri?!?! No excuse. Clueless players, horrible coaching, and players flat out quitting on plays is what is going on right now. That’s fricking ridiculous.
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I refuse to blame current coaches or players
Guess you don’t watch the games then.
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:59 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Orgeron is an arse-clown who caught lightning
Maybe so, maybe not, but he deserves enough time to get this right. Let's see how the season plays out, but I agree that if things don't change drastically he needs at least be on the warm seat next year
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:53 pm to siliconvalleytiger
“If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on me.”
Coach Ed Orgeron
He gets 2 seasons to get it right. If it’s anywhere close to the shiteshow we are now in 2022, he needs to be fired immediately.
Coach Ed Orgeron
He gets 2 seasons to get it right. If it’s anywhere close to the shiteshow we are now in 2022, he needs to be fired immediately.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:50 pm to jrobic4
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Maybe so, maybe not, but he deserves enough time to get this right. Let's see how the season plays out, but I agree that if things don't change drastically he needs at least be on the warm seat next year
Eh. If we were a 3, 4 maybe even 5 loss team this year on a regular schedule, most would say this.
This is a Gene Chizik kind of year and if we end up only winning a few games, or even running a .500 - any competent AD would be completely justified in making a change.
Coaches are allowed to have down years, within explanation. There's a big difference in a down year and an utter catastrophe.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this is his team now. his full recruiting cycle. his coaching staff. no wonderkid QB falling in his lap.
Chase, Marshall, Queen, Stingley, CEH are all from his recruiting cycle. And he brought in burrow also. Nothing fell in his lap and it’s a weak argument to even suggest 2020 was accidental. So to me he’s already “fixed” it once and deserves another shot.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 3:12 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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And he brought in burrow also.
burrow being available was a wonderkid QB falling into his lap. he beat out Cincinnati with a coach on staff with ties to his family. you think that gets O a pass for failure?
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So to me he’s already “fixed” it once and deserves another shot.
fixed what? 2020 is his mess. he hired Bo Pelini and made him the highest-paid DC in football. he hired Linehan.
there obviously are some other issues going on with the team and its attitude, togetherness, etc.
do you mean "fixed" as in "had a once in a lifetime QB fall into his lap AFTER being developed for 3 years by one of the GOAT offensive coaches in CFB, where we didn't have to develop him at all"? if you think that is fixing, this is always going to be "broken" afterwards b/c that ain't happening again
and that's the offense (where i'm not even being critical). there is no justification for this defense
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 10/13/20 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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burrow being available was a wonderkid QB falling into his lap. he beat out Cincinnati with a coach on staff with ties to his family. you think that gets O a pass for failure?
Pure conjecture. He needed a QB and went out and got one. Do you not like facts and being right for a change?
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fixed what?
Won the NC in 2019. Do you not like a winner?
Posted on 10/13/20 at 3:25 pm to siliconvalleytiger
I am off the O bandwagon.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:13 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Won the NC in 2019. Do you not like a winner?
do you mean "fixed" as in "had a once in a lifetime QB fall into his lap AFTER being developed for 3 years by one of the GOAT offensive coaches in CFB, where we didn't have to develop him at all"? if you think that is fixing, this is always going to be "broken" afterwards b/c that ain't happening again
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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do you mean "fixed" as in "had a once in a lifetime QB fall into his lap AFTER being developed for 3 years by one of the GOAT offensive coaches in CFB, where we didn't have to develop him at all"? if you think that is fixing, this is always going to be "broken" afterwards b/c that ain't happening again
Chase, Marshall, Queen, Stingley, CEH are all from his recruiting cycle. And he brought in burrow also. Nothing fell in his lap and it’s a weak argument to even suggest 2020 was accidental. So to me he’s already “fixed” it once and deserves another shot.
Won the NC in 2019. Do you not like a winner?
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:40 pm to BassMan63
Are you BLIND!
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:40 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Funny you’d use the term “works” because it’s not working. Great coaches like Bellicheck and you know who always stress the fact that once a season is over, even when you win it, you start from scratch and have the same expectations as before. That’s how champions conduct their programs, they don’t say “oh well we won so we’ll just take a couple years off and live off that title.” That’s what a piker does. I’m not saying Os doing that but you’re excusing it if he would and that’s just unacceptable. If you think we’re an elite program or striving to be you better get that type of thinking out of your head.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:43 pm to Madking
For every Belichick there’s 50 washed up NFL has beens. Doesn’t mean you don’t aspire to be the best, but you also don’t fire a coach and call him a colossal failure after one bad season. Especially after he won you the entire thing, a prospect that seemed near impossible even 5 years ago. And this is all coming from someone who hated the Orgeron hire.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:45 pm to coolmonk
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O hired these clowns. Does he just get a pass to flush millions down the toilet?
After last year? Of course he fricking does.
He’s already proven that he won’t sit around for long and wait for bad hires to pan out (Matt Canada, and that Auburn frick whose name escapes me). Pelini will be gone next year.
But to your original point, yes, he absolutely gets a pass to flush millions down the toilet. He could literally host a bon fire built out of $10M of LSU cash if he wanted to.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:48 pm to siliconvalleytiger
But I’m not saying that he should be fired or is a colossal failure. I’m also not saying he has the attitude you’re excusing. I’m saying that attitude inevitably brings failure nobody should have it.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:52 pm to Madking
Ok, so we actually agree then. LSU should not settle for this attitude but Orgeron does deserve a shot to fix it. If he can’t, we move on. That’s fair.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:55 pm to jrobic4
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but he deserves enough time to get this right
It's his fourth year on the job and he's on his second rebuild
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:56 pm to Damone
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It's his fourth year on the job and he's on his second rebuild
If only he had a national title to show for his rebuilds.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:57 pm to PhiTiger1764
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He’s already proven that he won’t sit around for long and wait for bad hires to pan out
It's okay that he makes shitty hires because he will quickly fire those shitty hires to make room for new ones!
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 10/13/20 at 4:58 pm to Damone
This is not a free pass. He makes more shitty hires and he’s gone. But the NC does buy him one cycle. It absolutely does.
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