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re: Orgeron... handcuffing Brady or not?
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:12 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:12 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
I am not one that thinks creativity is just trick plays. I believe that you can run the ball creatively as well. Misdirection, wild cat, option, etc. I just hope that Brady is allowed to tap in to some of that in this game.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:26 pm to Drayton80
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I believe that you can run the ball creatively as well. Misdirection, wild cat, option, etc
Running off-tackle is the play if they're giving it to you. IOW, you don't take plays out of your book just because fans think they're old and boring.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:30 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Since when has Bama given that to LSU. Either there will be creativity or there will be no victory. This isn't Florida or Auburn. This team has Nick Saban and will be prepared for the norm.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:36 pm to Drayton80
The play calling against Auburn was implemented like an NFL offense implements the play calling. It was determined by personnel. Auburn was running 7 DBs so LSU ran at them. The Problem was Auburn's defense has 2-3 giant, athletic DTs who can hold up against double teams, and Auburn's DBs are pretty good... especially when there's 7 of them. Auburn was the best defense LSU will face all year until UGA in the SEC championship.
Bama's defense is not great... Maybe good at best, but more so average for an SEC team. LSU should be able to score a lot. Bama's defense is slightly better than Florida. I expect 35-40 points, and more if LSU mixes run and pass well with an up tempo offense. LSU will win by a combination of fast scoring drives out of the spread/tempo and give way to more ball control that will wear down Bama's defense at the right times and rest the LSU defense.
The Tide don't have great depth or experienced, elite talent in their interior front 7 this year IMO, so if they try to run 7 DBs to stop Burrow's air attack, Helaire and LSU's RBs will run for over 200 yards! The ILBs are average/young. They have a couple edge guys/OLBs that are good in Davis and the reemergence of Terrell Lewis this year, but every SEC team has 1-2 real dudes... Bama usually has them to spare across the front 7 and even in their 2 deep, but not this year! Bama's Freshman Byron Young is good and will continue to improve on the DL and Phiderian Mathis may play inspired since he's from Louisiana, but IMO neither are going to dominate!
Bama's defense is not great... Maybe good at best, but more so average for an SEC team. LSU should be able to score a lot. Bama's defense is slightly better than Florida. I expect 35-40 points, and more if LSU mixes run and pass well with an up tempo offense. LSU will win by a combination of fast scoring drives out of the spread/tempo and give way to more ball control that will wear down Bama's defense at the right times and rest the LSU defense.
The Tide don't have great depth or experienced, elite talent in their interior front 7 this year IMO, so if they try to run 7 DBs to stop Burrow's air attack, Helaire and LSU's RBs will run for over 200 yards! The ILBs are average/young. They have a couple edge guys/OLBs that are good in Davis and the reemergence of Terrell Lewis this year, but every SEC team has 1-2 real dudes... Bama usually has them to spare across the front 7 and even in their 2 deep, but not this year! Bama's Freshman Byron Young is good and will continue to improve on the DL and Phiderian Mathis may play inspired since he's from Louisiana, but IMO neither are going to dominate!
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:38 pm to Drayton80
Bama’s offense will be stopped by our d more that bama’s d will stop our o.
I expect what we saw against Texas. Let’er rip and dare bama to try to keep up with us.
I expect what we saw against Texas. Let’er rip and dare bama to try to keep up with us.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:38 pm to Drayton80
Do you not think Saban has seen this offense is different? Do you think he is stupid enough to come out with 8 men in the box against this offense?
Auburn has had the most success in slowing down this offense to date. So, yes, he will likely try to use some of those same schemes. If the running game is there, as it was in the Auburn game, then you absolutely must run the ball.
Running the ball =/= conservative game plan
Auburn has had the most success in slowing down this offense to date. So, yes, he will likely try to use some of those same schemes. If the running game is there, as it was in the Auburn game, then you absolutely must run the ball.
Running the ball =/= conservative game plan
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:41 pm to Drayton80
I say the offense is going to attack every down.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:43 pm to Oilfieldbiology
I was thinking more like Busta Ryhmes speed.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:49 pm to Drayton80
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Will Orgeron allow Brady to fully insert an all out offensive
Why would a single person ask this if they watched all the LSU games this year.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:50 pm to FAP SAM
I actually just stated that running the ball didn't make it conservative. What is not debatable by anyone with intelligence is that Alabama is better than Auburn, and the gameplan will need to be much more creative to outscore them. Look at every team that has beaten Saban since 2011 and look at the creativity that it took. I hope that Orgeron doesn't share some of these "simpleton" ideas that have been posted on here. This same concept has been expressed since 2011 with the same result. Even with Beckham, Landry, Hill, and Mettenberger, the result was the same. Aggressiveness and creativity will decide the game. Try an unbiased approach and understand that no one on the outside believes that Texas or Auburn are top ten teams. LSU didn't exactly breeze through those games. My intent was not really to be negative. It was really to get a feel for how everyone thought the offensive mentality would be. I hope that it is aggressive, but time will tell. As far as the personal attacks go, most of you are either little young bitches or retarded swamp people that can't back up a word that is typed.
Oh and I do appreciate all of the cordial responses with decent input attached. I just wanted to see what the consensus was.
Oh and I do appreciate all of the cordial responses with decent input attached. I just wanted to see what the consensus was.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:51 pm to Drayton80
It depends on what Bama does on D. Opponent's D has dictated what we do on O all year. Auburn played 3-1-7 which the O hadn't seen yet, so they played their base stuff rather than the RPO heavy game plan. Against UF they ran mostly RPO and didn't throw deep because UF played deep zone most of the game. Last year Bama played a lot of zone which LSU wasn't expecting. LSU's O this year is great at taking whatever the D is giving. That's why it looks different almost every week.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:51 pm to Drayton80
I don't think Coach O has coached scared against alabama. He just hasn't had the horses. I don't care how great of a coach you are, it all comes down to your QB and O line. LSU simply hasn't been able to deal with bama up front. The offense hasn't stood a chance.
This year could be different for a few reasons. First of all the O line has improved a lot since last year. Secondly, this will be the first game in years that bama isn't trotting out a NFL ready defensive front.
This year could be different for a few reasons. First of all the O line has improved a lot since last year. Secondly, this will be the first game in years that bama isn't trotting out a NFL ready defensive front.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:51 pm to Drayton80
130 down votes and counting
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:58 pm to Drayton80
quote:Their offense is much much better than Auburn's. But Auburn's defense is absolutely better than this Bama D. Auburn has the best D-line in the country
Alabama is better than Auburn
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:05 pm to La Place Mike
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Only won by 3 though.
That's because refs.
Only won by 3 though.
That's because refs.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:08 pm to Drayton80
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Since when has Bama given that to LSU
That would be the last time LSU went into Tuscaloosa with the #1 passing offense, and a Heisman-favorite QB.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:15 pm to FAP SAM
The creativity that was lacking against Auburn was in the red zone and on short yardage plays. Won't beat Bama with the same plan. That is all. If you think LSU is going in to Tuscaloosa to man handle Bama without creativity, then you are once again setting yourself up for disappointment. They will score points, so LSU can not afford to settle for field goals or turn it over on downs. You are kidding yourself if you believe that Bama is that far behind Auburn. Even if they were, they will still play their best against LSU and Saban is still their coach. They historically have used their bye week to put together a solid game plan for LSU. I wish I could say the same for Miles or Orgeron. Just like every other LSU fan, I hope that this year is different.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Luckily, the coaching staff will not be overly confident and will hopefully not make the same mistakes as two weeks ago, or for the last 8 years.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:26 pm to Drayton80
quote:Point to where I said this
If you think LSU is going in to Tuscaloosa to man handle Bama
quote:Agreed totally. But the biggest reason Auburn was able to get those stops is that D-line, which again is the best in the country
LSU can not afford to settle for field goals or turn it over on downs.
quote:This year absolutely will be different, but that doesn't guarantee a win.
I hope that this year is different.
These teams are completely different than what either team has been traditionally. All LSU needs to do is run their offense and make any adjustments that may be needed after seeing Bama's strategy
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