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Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:26 pm to lsu2006
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They were certainly a factor. There's isn't 1 thing that generally costs a team a game.
Of course not. But, I think we can look at the game and say, the most significant issue we are having is...
When MSU is running for 6 yards per attempt and you team with a limited QB ability can't run the ball consistently and can't protect long enough to throw it downfield, you've got a MAJOR problem. LSU could have had zero penalties and lost that game that night.
quote:Of course. That's my point.
Could these not also be factors in getting destroyed by or getting beaten by inferior opponents?
But, you are rejecting the idea that the OL issue is significant and rejecting the idea that Orgeron didn't really create it.
You seem to think that you can't admit that Orgeron inherited a major problem (this is the truth) and still conclude that Orgeron is a substandard head coach (also the truth). Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Lying about the OL play, or the level of talent diminishes your argument against Orgeron.. It doesn't further it. Be honest in your criticism.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:26 pm to Scoob
I think Placebeaux is just trolling. He usually seems like a level-headed type of guy.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:27 pm to Mo Jeaux
He really just wants O to work. That's what I get from him.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:30 pm to Robbytiger
shite, Kirby Smart almost lost to Nicholls last year.....I bet the GA forums weren’t exactly pleased.
....& now...there are articles claiming he’s the best coach in the nation now...
....& now...there are articles claiming he’s the best coach in the nation now...
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:32 pm to abellsujr
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He really just wants O to work. That's what I get from him.
And look, I get that. What I don't understand is spending the energy engaging in mental gymnastics in order to try to convince yourself that he will, if fact, be successful.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:32 pm to Robbytiger
Are you.....ignoring.......the fact that......he dominated........in recruiting...
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This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:34 pm to moneyg
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Lying about the OL play, or the level of talent diminishes your argument against Orgeron.. It doesn't further it. Be honest in your criticism.
I'm not trying to say they haven't played poorly. They have. I'm saying they have the talent (in my view), with the right coaching and game-planning, to play better than they have and not get manhandled by State and Troy. Again, yes, we have issues (arguably "major" issues) upfront. I just refuse to believe that a competent coach and staff couldn't at least slightly mask those issues. We at least agree that Orgeron isn't the answer. I appreciate you bringing actual rational thought to the board
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:38 pm to tigerskin
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Miles was losing to Troy 31-10 and was able to come back and win because he had better players than we have now.
He was/is a better coach and proved it multiple times in close games.
O excels in losing games if you check his HC record.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:40 pm to Mayhawman
Nah....our bigger line just finally overpowered Troy in the end....
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:42 pm to Robbytiger
Well....I guess....O....will just have to......win a national championship.....before he can get......the same slack as......Miles...
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:46 pm to lsu2006
That's because you got nothing but insults and nothing else. You bring nothing to this site N O T H I N G.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:48 pm to lsu2006
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I just refuse to believe that a competent coach and staff couldn't at least slightly mask those issues
That's a far cry from saying the issues don't exist or that Orgeron is responsible for them.
They did a great job of masking the OL issues against Florida. That was all smoke and mirrors.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:48 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Behold, the sign! Eauxsiah is here!
Saban did lose to UAB and ULM in his first year at LSU and Bama.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:50 pm to tigerskin
This board has become a putrid witch hunt.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:53 pm to moneyg
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They did a great job of masking the OL issues against Florida. That was all smoke and mirrors
Exactly
And when has going into The Swamp ever been a cake walk? Ive never seen so many fans mad about beating a higher ranked team on the road as this bundle of nutsacks. We lost to Troy GET OVER IT! shite happens. You gonna sit there and let it define this team and this fansbase? If so youre all a bunch of pussies.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:58 pm to Placebeaux
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We lost to Troy GET OVER IT! shite happens. You gonna sit there and let it define this team and this fansbase?
Yes?
Whether you like it or not teams are judged by their wins and losses. They carry weight.
Sorry beating a bad Florida team doesn't mean as much as losing to Troy. Now if they beat Auburn then we can start to have a different conversation but reasonable people aren't ready to get over Troy.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:58 pm to moneyg
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That's a far cry from saying the issues don't exist or that Orgeron is responsible for them.
Right. That's why I never made either of these points
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:01 pm to Goldrush25
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reasonable people aren't ready to get over Troy
Reasonable people don't dwell on the past, losers do that.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 3:03 pm to Placebeaux
Losers lose to Troy and then act like it didn't happen not even 2 weeks ago
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