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re: Orgeron deserves a raise and an extension, but proceed with caution

Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29626 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:28 pm to
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and get shut out by Bama again
and you lost me

I’m saying losses to TAMU and UF and getting shutout by BAMA, is going to be difficult to keep him
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104169 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:31 pm to
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people want to give miles the mcneese game

Nowhere near the same thing. Everyone knows that would have been a win.
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it took 3 calls at the end of regulation and 7 ot's worth of bad/missed calls for o's team to FINALLY cave and you are holding that AGAINST him?

The no review on the catch/fumble and the Greedy PI were the only 2 really questionable calls and LSU had multiple oppurtunities to win the game before that. It was a loss to a good team on the road to damn good coach. I'm not "holding anything against" him. It's absurd to say LSU didn't lose the game. There were some questionable calls in LSU's favor in the Auburn game. Are we not counting that as a win?
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i am not an o fan and i am not an ens fan.

What does this have to do with considering the A&M game a loss or not?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:38 pm to
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six


9-4
10-3
Is 7 losses
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o has beaten some really good teams


He has 2 wins over a sec team with more than 8 wins.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:39 pm to
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let me get this straight. people want to give miles the mcneese game but want to hold the a&m abomination against o. well that makes sense. 


In 11 years Miles never lost a ooc home game. O has lost to troy at home.
This post was edited on 2/4/19 at 7:45 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104169 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:40 pm to
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Is 7 losses

He doesn't want to count A&M as a loss because of the refs or something.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:41 pm to
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He doesn't want to count A&M as a loss because of the refs or something.



Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104169 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:46 pm to
Also says O can't control the fact that Bama plays their best game vs LSU. I don't get why people have to make outrageous claims and excuses when the guy just finished 10-3 and ranked 6th in the final poll. I know you and I disagree on just how good of a season that is. But, I'm satisfied and happy with this past season. No need to make any excuses for it because it speaks for itself IMO.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29626 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:52 pm to
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basically". as in one less win which is pretty significant. even if the mcneese game is a given, lsu played in the houston bowl against ttech. this year, lsu played in, and won, a ny6 bowl with a defense made up of urec players. huge difference.
you do know LSU finished THIRD IN THE SEC WEST AND FIFTH IN THE CONFERENCE?

Can you tell me how many regular season out of conference games Miles lost at LSU? And TOTAL OOC Reg Season as head coach at LSU? So yeah - the record is the same.
As far as Bowl Games
I believe the reigning NFL MVP and now the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals were at TTU that year.
So LSU beat a UCF team without its MVP and probably the third best QB in the country.

I can’t help ignorance like you.

He has 1 fricking win against a decent team in UGA and shitty losses against mediocre to bad UF and TAMU teams then shut out again against BAMA.

He has 3 fricking years left on his fricking contract.
I’ll give him next year.
Losses to Tamu and / or UF again and to Bama with one other frick up, it’s time to weight it out in his contract.
You can’t let TAMU and UF pass you because that is third place year in and year out AGAIN LIKE THIS PAST SEASON. Third in the frickING SEC WEST a-hole AND 5Th in the conference. Where is the improvement that warrants an extension? No. He needs to earn that fricking extension.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:53 pm to
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Its ok bruh. Im sure youve been called worse.im still waiting for you to link a single lie ive told



I don't have to link it. We both know that you're a lying sack of shite and we both know what you lied about. That's the last I've got to say about it. Have a great day.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:53 pm to
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Nowhere near the same thing
you're right. we have evidence that o's team played well enough to beat a&m. we have no idea whether miles' team would have won that game.

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Everyone knows that would have been a win.
do they?

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The no review on the catch/fumble and the Greedy PI were the only 2 really questionable calls
what


the


hell

please tell me you're joking

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It's absurd to say LSU didn't lose the game
we don't see eye to eye on that. it's absurd to say that o's team did not play well enough to win that game multiple times over but was thwarted by the worst officiating disaster of all time in any sport at any level

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There were some questionable calls in LSU's favor in the Auburn game.
link?

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What does this have to do with considering the A&M game a loss or not?
the reason for that comment is that i think there are legit criticisms of o's performance. ens is one of them. bama gameplan is one of them. saying he had 3 losses like miles did in '15 is NOT one of them. it's stupid.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66235 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:55 pm to
We do have the fact that Miles never lost to ATM and beat much better ATM teams so we do have a pretty good idea.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104169 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:57 pm to
IMO Orgeron's 3 loss season was much, much better than Miles's 3 loss season. We are just gonna have to agree to disagree on the other stuff. If we don't this thread is gonna end up being 100 pages of back and forth with no resolution in sight.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78225 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 7:58 pm to
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Nowhere near the same thing you're right. we have evidence that o's team played well enough to beat a&m. we have no idea whether miles' team would have won that game.


Weird I could Swear I had evidence we didn’t.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:00 pm to
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We do have the fact that Miles never lost to ATM and beat much better ATM teams so we do have a pretty good idea
yeah, you're right. miles wasn't trending in the wrong direction. the offense was clicking. the wins were going up. lsu beat a mediocre wisky team in gb. o didn't beat a very solid uga team. etc, etc.

there's no reasoning with you people.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38415 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:04 pm to
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LSU hasn't beaten them in 9 years. It's going to take a while to close the gap. Why can't you see that?


ah, one of those "positive" fans, who have already thrown in the towel against Bama. Nice.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:04 pm to
the entire nation knows that lsu beat a&m. lsu was ranked higher after the game. in fact, significantly better. lsu had a better, ny6 bowl game, than a&m. was ranked higher after the season. is ranked higher preseason.

to continue to say o had a 3 loss season is just obtuse. he had an objectively better season than miles in '15 and i don't see that it matters anyway. i'm evaluating o on his own merits.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78225 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:05 pm to
Um... they were a 9-4 team

Yeah we were still ranked higher.

Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:06 pm to
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I could Swear I had evidence we didn’t
well, you're wrong. no surprise. some people are just not being objective about the matter
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:06 pm to
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SammyTiger
thanks for making my point for me?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38415 posts
Posted on 2/4/19 at 8:07 pm to
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the entire nation knows that lsu beat a&m. lsu was ranked higher after the game. in fact, significantly better. lsu had a better, ny6 bowl game, than a&m. was ranked higher after the season. is ranked higher preseason.

to continue to say o had a 3 loss season is just obtuse. he had an objectively better season than miles in '15 and i don't see that it matters anyway. i'm evaluating o on his own merits.




Solid troll job. 10/10.
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